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Yessssssssssssss, another sex scandal involving a mega church

Discussion in 'Religion & Spirituality Forum' started by sds70, Nov 19, 2007.

  1. weavervegas

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    Mega Church or any Church with a bad pastor = Cult - if you're stupid enough to support that church, then you are a member of that cult . . Some pastors are in it for the money

    At least with catholics there is some oversight, priest answers to the bishop, who answers to the arch bishop and so on. . . . . A single pastor running a church answers to no one, the congregation can leave or put up with it . . most don't leave
     
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    sds70 'King Kong Ain't Got **** On Me!!!!!'

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    Dont all pastors, whether in a denomination or non-denomination, have to answer to God eventually? Not now necessarily, but eventually when everything is said and done?

    Catholic priests who sexually abused boys will have to give an account for their actions, as well as the mega church pastor who had a baby with his secretary . . . All pastors/bishops/etc. have to give an account to God over how they ran their ministries and preached.
     
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    Well yes - everyone will answer to their god of choice
    .. But the issue is now, pastor's answer to no one now and there is no one to report them to. and Pastors do molest their folk just like priests, but the difference is there is an order of hierarchy in which at the very lest the Bishop will reassign and hide the offending priest. . . . . The pastor method has no such recourse, especially if their is no affiliation to the SBC . . (most congregations do not know who their pastor is or is not affiliated with)

    So Again I say
    Mega Church or any Church with a bad pastor = Cult - if you're stupid enough to support that church, then you are a member of that cult . . Some pastors are in it for the money. . . . . A single pastor running a church answers to no one, the congregation can leave or put up with it . . most don't leave especially if their neighbor doesn't leave the church

    and BTW - Priest's don't get paid or drive a Mercedes etc....They do get allocated money and a place to live, but not the kind of cash you see some mega church pastors. Their allocation comes from church size and much be approved by someone above (i.e. bishop, arch bishop)

    and yes, I've started to attend a UU . . by attend I mean once a month
     
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    Tell that to Jim Bakker.
     
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    Point for hasbeen, there is justice . .well some justice - money did buy him something

     
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    Agreed. Not complete justice, but at least something. Of course, ultimate justice will come at the end, but for the time being, I guess something is better than nothing, right?
     
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    Right and my point I was trying to make is 1 independent Bad pastor can preach a bunch of false hoods to the congregation and get away with it therefore becoming a Cult in My mind, there is no check for it (unless the congregation leaves which they don't)
     
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    Anybody who is in the 5 fold Christian ministry (apostle/prophet/evangelist/pastor/teacher) is going to have to give an account to God (not their own personal god, but the G-O-D) eventually. I think most of the non-denominational mega churches do have a board of directors that they report to and who sets their salary.

    I don't have a problem with the salaries some of the mega pastors make believe it or not. Considering that they are 1) a local pastor in most cases (see Creflo Dollar, Rod Parsley, etc.) but at the same time 2) they may also be a national/international evangelist traveling on the road for weeks at a time (see Benny Hinn now, or Oral Robets/Billy Graham 'back in the day') I think they should get a reasonable salary for the time & effort they put in preaching the Gospel around the world. I know some folks don't think Pastors should be making a lot of money ('Hey, Jesus was poor that means pastors should be poor also') but then again many pastors will point out in the Bible that Jesus believed in prosperity for the believer (numerous Bible scriptures support this).

    BTW, what is UU ? ? ? Just wondering :) . . .
     
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    sds70 'King Kong Ain't Got **** On Me!!!!!'

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    2 Corinthians 9:6-8 (NEW KING JAMES VERSION)

    For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty ye might be rich.



    According to the Apostle Paul, it sounds like Jesus came to Earth so his believers could be rich (i.e. There's nothing wrong with being rich). So maybe Jesus doesn't have an issue with pastors wearing $3,000 suits and flying in jets all around the world to preach the Gospel . . . Just a thought :) . .
     
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    God has a different definition of "rich", especially when it relates to Jesus' purpose for coming to earth. :smart:
     

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