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Yankees Sign Johnny Damon

Discussion in 'MLB - Baseball Forum' started by BUCKO, Dec 20, 2005.

  1. gridfaniker

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    no need. trust me. he's wrong.
     
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    By just looking at it, I totally agree. I was hoping to prove something though. I even did a search of the acreage of each OF. I also think that if you assume 30 degrees from home is what the CF would cover, you could do a pretty good approximation of the area and distances a CF would have to cover. But then I realized that I have forgotten pretty much all of the geometry and trigonometry I aver learned.
     
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    As I told you, Torii Hunter would disagree with you. Maybe you just didn't understand the reference the first time because you don't actually watch baseball.
    That's true, but look at Yankee Stadium's curvature again. The deepest portion of that left-center power alley is actually in the leftfielder's part of the outfield, not the centerfielder's. And for the record, the rightfield power alley is deeper in Fenway than in Yankee Stadium.


    vp:
    It's pretty simple geometry. If a curve and right angle have relatively equal starting points, the right angle will contain more area than the curve, especially an elongated curve like that in Yankee stadium.
     
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    Torii Hunter. Yeah I did see that. Please follow up with a point (even one of you patented lame ones will do). I've watched tons of sox games on tv and been to a shitload more in person. way more often than not, a ball hit into the triangle in going to go for a triple.

    the difference in depth between the RC alley in YS and FP is miniscule compared to the LC alley.

    as for how you've determined whose responsibility it is to cover certain areas of the outfield, L-O-fucking-L. Is there some kind of obscure rule governing this type of thing?
     
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    Yes, I understand that, but you are treating 420 as the midpoint of a curve and as CF, neither of which it is. The closest thing you'd get to CF in Fenway is 395 or 400 (a straight line between home and the wall that intersects 2nd). Then, when you factor in that there are no curved spaces in that area, you start to dramatically decrease the area.
     
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    The sox have been so concerned about their huge centerfield that they've manned it over the years with speedsters like Fred Lynn, Rick Miller, Tony Armas, Steve Lyons, Bob Zupcic and a 68-year-old Otis Nixon. Ellis Burks and Dave Henderson and, of course, Damon, were noteable exceptions to the plodders they've put out there.
    The Spankers have always tried to put speed in their centerfield: Elliott Maddox, Mickey Rivers, Claudell Washington, Ricky Henderson, Roberto Kelly and Bernie Williams.
     
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    This from ESPN.Com website

    ++++Bernie Williams' defense declined significantly over the past four seasons, although he is expected to remain with the Yankees as a reserve. And while Damon's arm is not much better, the two-time All-Star does cover a lot of ground, which is important in Yankee Stadium. ++++


    I have never heard that Boston just got a speedster for CF because Fenway has so much ground to cover,, OLL
     
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    No, I'm actually not. Even if you took out that extended portion, the centerfield area of Fenway would still be equal to or larger than Yankee Stadium's precisely because of those angles. Unfortunately we're all dealing with numbers on specific points rather than the entire curve, thus you focus on 390 while I focus on 420. But if you superimpose one field over the other, thus avoiding reliance upon a few individual points, you can get a better sense of how centerfield is actually deeper and larger in Boston. Neither are particularly large centerfield areas, but Fenway's is bigger.


    Hyme:
    Dude, that's a Boston site. Expecting them not to invent reasons to think that Damon will be a disaster in NY is like expecting Boston fans in this thread to ... oh wait ...
     
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    oh wait....:thud: :thud: :thud: :thud: :thud:
     

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