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Yankees Sign Johnny Damon

Discussion in 'MLB - Baseball Forum' started by BUCKO, Dec 20, 2005.

  1. Hyme Lipshitz

    Hyme Lipshitz aka Billy Badass

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    fenway - left center 379,, center 390, deep right 380

    yankee stadium- left center 399, center 408, deep right 385

    deep center at Fenway is a gap area that few hits travel to,,

    Fenway because of it's dimentions means less arm strength to play,, Damons weakness isn't covering it's the deep flies which is easier at Fenway because only deep center is deeper but that's a small area of the ballpark,,, been there many, many times and I watch 90% of their games,,,, Damon is used to playing balls off the Monster in left center where you just turn around off the bounce and toss to second,,, not going to happen at the Stadium and also center thus not having to throw from 400 ft very often,, he is going to have to make a lot more throws from close to 400ft at the Stadium than he ever did at Fenway
     
  2. Collin

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    Using just three points is a poor way to assess a park's area, especially when those points do not represent extremes of distance. Moreover, I and Torii Hunter disagree with you about how often balls are hit to that deepest part of Fenway. The following picture should help you understand that there's a lot more outfield space in Boston than you thought:
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    And in Yankee Stadium:
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    As you can see, New York has more overall outfield area because of Fenway's compressed angles in left and right field, but the center field area is unquestionably larger in Boston.
     
  3. Hyme Lipshitz

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    you can fit Yankee stadium inside Fenway Park because your models are different scales

    second of all we aren't talking about range we are talking throwing distances,, most of the baseball experts are saying Johnny will have to make many more long throws in Yankee stadium than he did at Fenway,, most hits don't go to deep center,,

    just center left from Fenway vs Yankee Stadium will prove this out,, base at the monster is much shorter and rebounding off of it makes the fielder have a much shorter throw,, johnny is going to have to run right up to the fence at Yankee Stadium where at Fenway he would pull back and play the rebound,, a whole lot shorter throw
     
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    the left-center gap at Yankee stadium is much larger than Fenway. right-center is similar, slightly bigger in Fenway.


    also, if you look at the two images Collin put up, it's obvious that the fenway image was purposely made larger to help "prove" his point. look at the infield diamond: noticeably larger in the Fenway image.
     
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  5. Collin

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    Actually they aren't. If you hold something up to the infields to compare them, you'll see that they're to the same scale. Furthermore, there's no question that Damon had deeper throws in Fenway. Just look at the picture. In Yankee stadium center field is blunted, while in Fenway center field is elongated. That said, Damon's arm issues will be a problem anywhere because he even struggles with throws of average depth. So I'm not saying that Damon won't be a question mark in center due to his arm, I'm saying that people like you who are saying that it's more of a problem in NY than Boston are very obviously wrong.


    gridfaniker:
    Nice conspiracy theory, jackass, but if you had the slightest bit of intelligence then you might have noticed that:

    #1) The infields actually are the same. Hold a ruler up to your screen and measure them to make sure, but I already did.

    #2) Anyone who wasn't completely retarded about the internet would have checked the image links and realized that I direct linked them instead of attaching them, thus meaning I most certainly didn't modify the images in any way when I posted them.
     
  6. vpkozel

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    The scale is way off on those. The infields are different, marginally, but the real difference is in the scale of the outfield. The line in Fenway is from the backstop to deepest center (60 + 420 = 480). That same exact line put into Yankee stadium (80 + 420 = 500) goes way outside the stadium.
     

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    completely retarded? you'd know, wouldn't you stat-boy. the question here is whether a weak arm is more of a liability in Fenway or Yankee Stadium. You say Fenway and post a couple park maps. Wheeee! anyone who has a clue about baseball knows a CF has way more area to cover in Yankee Stadium than Fenway. You cite the deep triangle area at Fenway as "proof," when there is no CF alive who can cover that ground. Anyone hits it there and the best a CF can do is hope he can hold the hitter to a triple.Now go crawl back under your rock and poke the keys on your calculator, moron.


    and, yes, you did fuck with the images. VP proved it. what an asshat (you, not VP)
     
  8. Collin

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    For the record, I'm not only smarter than you, but I'm also more athletic and better looking. :supergrin
    Actually anyone who has a clue knows the opposite, which explains why you didn't know. As I've repeatedly explained, the left field area is compressed in Fenway for obvious reasons, but the angles actually create significantly more area in the Boston centerfield than in New York's.
    You are seriously the dumbest human being ever. Do you even know how to check image tags? Do you even know what those are? I don't own or run ballparks.com, you idiot, so if I'm linking from there then I obviously cannot have changed the images. In all seriousness, I think you need to lay off the drinking a bit. You didn't have that many brain cells to begin with, and now you're coming dangerously close to becoming a vegetable.
     
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    look at your own diagrams, dummy, and try not to focus too much on the triangle in Fenway's centerfield. Balls rarely get hit there. The power alley in left-center is a lot deeper (20 feet) in Yankee Stadium than it is in Fenway. The alleys in right-center are very similar. all in all, you can't argue that a CF in Fenway has more ground to patrol and is in need of a stronger arm than a CF in Yankee Stadium. Well, you could argue, but you'd be wrong....again.


    One other thing you forgot that will further expose Damon's weak arm once he starts playing in the Bronx: No Manny to cut off his throws and relay them into the infield.
     
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    I actually spent some time thinking of different mathematical ways to prove one of you fuckers wrong, but realized it was more fun to watch you bitch at each other.
     

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