Why do atheists...

and after he died people began to relay what it was he had told them (and added their own stuff, inevitably).

 

Just speaking for myself, of course . . .

"The pledge says "God"."

Yes, it does. That is why, just like prayer, it should not be led in government schools, by government employees, getting paid by the taxpayer. Which god is the pledge referring to? Whichever one you want - but none of them should be taught in government schools.

Now, I am not going to get into the socialist history of the pledge, the nazi salute that was once a part of it, the wording, the addition of god, or the idea of a loyalty oath being anathema in a constitutional republic, unless you would like to discuss those issues.

"Some people pray at school."

There is nothing wrong with individuals praying silently, any time they wish.

"The 10 Commandments are posted."

The first five, whether you are referring to the Protestant, Catholic, or Jewish version, are religious teachings. Religious teachings have no place in secular government.

"I mean what is the point in all the fuss?? I understand when religions disagree, but for non-religious to cause so much trouble I'm confused in their motivation."

If there is no mixing of religious teachings with government, there is no fuss at all. I believe strongly in religious freedom, and this by definition means that government, which we are forced to support, should not favor religion - any religion.

"I'm asking to know why the non-religious are 90% of the time the ones fussing over any type of representation in society pretaining to God or Allah or whatever."

I guess you missed the Baptists raising hell over the lowering of the flags to half-staff for the recently departed pope? They were correct, in that instance.

"Why... if there's nothing to fuss about, why fuss?"

There are no gods to worry about, true. But their are people who believe in gods - they are the ones to watch

 

Prehaps and prehaps not but in any event the intial group of christians became such upon seeing the miracles and the ressurection. They were not told by others.

 

Just a question, where do you draw your morality from? Do you have any higher authority that you accept or do you just see everything as situational and open to change?

 

I drew my morality from many facets of society. Initially, from the teachings of parents, teachers, and church. Later, from the law, and from the study of history.

So, are ethics situational and open to change? Yes. But before you argue about this, if you are coming from a Christian perspective, and use the Bible to support your views, you are using the big book of situation ethics

 

The is an incorrect interpretation of the Constitution based upon the words of the founding fathers themselves. The Constitution was never intended to be reinterpreted, just amended.

 

Then we should not interpret it? Well, I actually agree. We should take it as written:
[size=+1]Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. [/size]

. . . No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States

That line of the 14th Amendment applied the Bill of Rights to the state and local governments, so NC, Alabama, Charlotte, etc. also shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

 

I do not want to argue this again but if you do not see anything as higher than your own intellect I do not understand how you can have any morals. Why do anything selfless or for the good of another person if you have nothing above yourself telling you to do so. If I were an atheist I would be one selfish and devious guy.

 

Most people don't go through life with a constant "WWJD" on their minds. They make decisions based on their personality and their social training.

 

Let me get this straight....your telling me in order to be a decent person...to do something nice for another person, that one has to have a belief in a superior being? That you can't have any morals?

You make a lot of good arguments , but this is not one of them.