Who will be the 12th ACC School ? ?

Is there any particular reason this thread has digressed to discusses Commodores? Are your trying to tell us there may be a private school in a big conference that may be happier in a conference with some other private schools?

Could be. I don't know how the ACC would benefit though. Vandy sucks in all the men's sports, I think.

 

Tennessee!

 

The link that suggested that Kentucky is a possibility was a bit of an eyebrow raiser.

 

Tons of stuff is flying aound that makes sense, makes some sense and some that is just made up. Under current circumstances don't look for another fulltime Big East school to be the 12th. That horse looks dead right now.

From my understanding, certain Presidents/Chancellors feel they have given enough on the athletic side of the expansion equation and are looking at a good academic partner for the Conference in return.

Certain private institutions meet the academic profile, while weak in athletics, and remain in an expanded "geographic footprint" that is culturally similar to the present configuration. Another private instution, while outside of the footprint, meets the academic end while giving a bonus of a solid athletic program.

As has been seen in the past 6 weeks, the situation changes almost daily. Right now, it looks like the University heads and not the Conference office are setting the future direction. It could be an interesting ride over the next year.

 

>>From my understanding, certain Presidents/Chancellors feel they have given enough on the athletic side of the expansion equation and are looking at a good academic partner for the Conference in return.

Man, this thread just gets funnier.

SEC might pay you to take Vandy though.

 

No argument there. The whole thing has been a comedy of errors on all sides. Why should it change now?

 

Let's just use Vandy as an example. What does the ACC gain by adding them? I guess my real question is why do they need 12 teams? That just cuts the ACC basketball tournament money (and tickets) down more. That was Duke and UNC's objection all along, I think.

It may be easy to get the rule changed for a chmpionship game. The Big 10 and Pac 10 would probalby support it. I read yesterday the Big 12 would too. Maybe the Big East, if it makes them feel better against future raids.

I also don't see why you need even divisions. I'm not even sure you need divisions. Have certain rivalry teams always play each other and rotate the rest of the schedule. That's what the Big 10 does. Take the top 2 for the championship, even if they've already played.

Same in BB.

Look at it another way. Davidson is very high academically. No one is going to admit them into the ACC though. That may be an extreme example, since they're little bitty, and Vandy is a reasonable size university.

I realize all this is hard to predict. You have to know the minds of 7 chancellors/presidents. And they trade off and do compromises. All these people have political skills or they wouldnt be where they are.

The whole thing will be very interesting.
Do you know which schools are pushing for this academically better school, whoever it is?

 

>>and are looking at a good academic partner

at least we don't have to worry about it being ECU now.

 

Predict what's going to happen? Never a clue especially after today's Miami presser. This is beyond figuring out. I only know what I've been told and that changes daily if not hourly. LOL!

The 11 team scenario was never discussed until Wednesday night. The conference office had worked out schedules/divisional breakdowns for 10, 12, 13 and 14 scenarios but not 11. Going into that meeting the odds were that it would just be a "Miami only" scenario or a 14 team scenario with BC, 'Cuse, Miami, Va Tech & a team to be named later. The 14 team scenario was discussed during the previous meeting with a "straw poll" vote done on potential 14th teams. At that time there was no support for WVU, ECU or many of the other schools listed. ND has always been on the radar screen but its always been a faint blip and remains so.

Duke and UNC got to NCSU's Fox and she came up with the "geographic footprint" objections at that time. The compromise was worked out with the Va Tech/Miami vote. I have a feeling that the ND scenario would be enough of a carrot to drop the "geography" argument.

When you look at the academic end, look at the schools opposing the entire expansion and also schools that are similar to other small private southern universities.

I have more than a fan's interest in this. My career and future are greatly impacted by what happens. I hope it doesn't get screwed up any more than it already has but the fallout from what has already occured is going to damage or end more than one career of those involved.