when will chris rix transfer?

Weren't you disputing this in that other FSU thread?

 

You are so right. I know nothing about football...much less college. And trying to match wits with you is just...well...insane. I'd be better off jumping off a cliff. You are the all knowing Collin. :229031_ha

 

oops. sorry -- i was bumping an old thread. i'll move it.

 

that's what i thought to be true four years ago. now i see how it's top-ranked players who aren't being coached-up once they get to tallahassee.

 

Who were theses top ranked players? I really can't think of any great FSU offensive players from the last few years.

I think that Rix is actually the perfect example of what I was talking about. He's your Adam Boone.

 

well, like i said, rix wasn't supposed to be the starter -- the starter was supposed to be joe mauer. anquan boldin came in with rix, too -- as a QB.



here's a story for you:

Notebook: Mauer indeed was a hit -- just not for 'Noles

By Dennis Dodd
CBS SportsLine.com Senior Writer

Jeff Bowden's quality of life would be better, wouldn't it?

Certainly the Chris Rix debacle never would have happened, right?

With a certain former Florida State quarterback hitting .392, it's worth asking the question about Joe Mauer: What if?

What if major league baseball's current average leader had decided on football over baseball after signing with FSU in February 2001? Safe to say it could have spared Jeff, FSU's offensive coordinator, and daddy Bobby years of quarterback heartache.

The Twins sealed the deal that year when they passed up Mark Prior (good for them) for the more signable Mauer (bad for the 'Noles). Mauer couldn't resist being taken by his hometown team.

"I told (Joe) quit hitting the curve ball, don't hit the curve ball," Bobby Bowden told CBS SportsLine in '01. "Let them strike you out."

Today, Mauer is a 23-year old rising superstar catcher. But had he honored his football commitment in 2001, this would have been Mauer's NFL draft year. That's assuming he would have red-shirted and played four years.

Without Mauer, assuming anything for a Florida State quarterback has been a risk.

The position hasn't been the same since Chris Weinke walked off the field after an Orange Bowl loss to Oklahoma in January 2001. Weinke won the Heisman that season, leading the 'Noles to the BCS title game.

Losing the nation's No. 1 high school quarterback to a pro baseball contract four months later coincided with the "decline" of Florida State football. That 2000 season was the last of the incredible 14 consecutive top five finishes by FSU.

Coincidence?

"If Mauer stayed, it would have been the worst decision of his life," said recruiting analyst Tom Lemming. "Now Mauer is approaching DiMaggio-esque status in baseball. If he'd have gone football, he may be out of sports now."

Whether the quarterbacks haven't been good enough or the talent around them wasn't talented enough, FSU has struggled since Mauer said no.

The 11 touchdowns thrown in 2004 were the fewest since Bowden's first year in 1976. Last year, the running game was ranked 109th and the team lost five games for the second time in four years. Somehow, FSU won another ACC title.

Bobby Bowden did go into that '01 signing day that year with his eyes wide open. Mauer, stud quarterback at Cretin-Durham Hall in Minneapolis, let it be known that he favored baseball over football.

Still, Bowden thought the risk was worth offering a scholarship. Weinke, another former Cretin-Durham star, signed in 1991, only to return from minor league baseball years later to win a Heisman Trophy.

The difference was that Weinke actually showed up on campus in August 1991 and bombed out of baseball after six years in the minors.

"They (Florida State) were kind of hoping Mauer would stick around," said rivals.com's Jeremy Crabtree. "Everybody knew when they recruited him that (baseball) was a factor. That was one reason he went to Florida State, they had a great baseball program."

It could have been the Mauer, the merrier. Instead:

* There was a double blow that year. Offensive coordinator Mark Richt left for Georgia in 2001. At the time, he was recruiting Mauer, Brodie Croyle and D.J. Shockley for the 'Noles. FSU got none of them.

* When Mauer went to baseball, FSU was essentially down to two scholarship quarterbacks -- Rix and Anquan Boldin. Boldin had played receiver previously and never panned out as a quarterback. Rix? He sported Christian values, a muscle car and an inconsistent arm (and head). To put it mildly.

* Matt Henshaw and Adrian McPherson arrived as freshman in fall 2001. Henshaw was a non-factor. McPherson eventually embarrassed himself and the school in the infamous bad-check, gambling scandal.

* Fabian Walker made Florida State one of his collegiate three stops, actually starting the 2003 Sugar Bowl.

* Sexton started seven games in 2003 and was the full-time starter in 2004.

The next great one, finally, might be Drew Weatherford. The ACC freshman of the year last season threw for 18 touchdowns behind a beat-up offensive line.

Hey, it has only been 5½ years since Mauer signed his letter. A lifetime for FSU fans.

 

You are kind of proving my point Larry. In each of those 5 1/2 years, FSU was still getting high marks on their recruiting classes. And there is no way that FSU should be waiting 5 1/2 years to fill such a premium position.

I'm telling you - I have lived through this, and when you look back on it you'll see that I'm right.

People are recruiting against Bowden's age. Add in the fact that the offense has sucked so bad lately and they are using that to their advantage too.

 

like i said, there were a lot of factors.

the recruits are good, but they aren't being coached-up and the gameplans suck ass.

 

If the recruits were that good, then some of them would be making an impact on Sundays. Honestly, FSU only needs to have a halfway decent gameplan in like 2-3 games per year.

The gameplan for Wake should be line up/knock them over/throw the ball over them.

 

these are the national championship teams and the ranking (by superprep) of their recruiting class the previous five years. they are sorted by overall class average ranking.

'97 Michigan 4, 7, 7, 4, 3 -- 5.0
'99 Florida St. 7, 7, 3, 13, 3 -- 6.6
'96 Florida 13, 3, 14, 8, 1 -- 7.8
'02 Ohio State 3, 15, 8, 2, 13 -- 8.2
'98 Tennessee 8, 8, 8, 18, 1 -- 8.6
'03 USC 1, 7, 19, 11, 14 -- 10.4
'03 LSU 3, 19, 2, 26, 9 -- 11.8
'97 Nebraska 19, 4, 8, 20, 18 -- 13.8
'01 Miami 9, 7, 11, 20, 13 -- 14.0
'95 Nebraska 8, 20, 18, 14, 28 -- 17.6
'94 Nebraska 20, 18, 14, 28, 10 -- 18.0
'00 Oklahoma 19, 36, 20, 24, 32 -- 26.2


here are rivals.com rankings of fsu's previous eight recruiting classes:

1999 -- #15
2000 -- #3
2001 -- #1
2002 -- #1
2003 -- #7
2004 -- #3
2005 -- #3
2006 -- #3

obviously, fsu is getting recruits that are "good enough" to win a championship with. it's what happens to that talent once it gets here that's sad.