When did you accept God in your life, or realize you did not believe in him?

Again, the concept of 'God', by its very nature requires Him to exist beyond the boundaries of the physical realm, including time. That being the case, the idea of the eternal becomes a possibility.

Edit: (or what Sly already said...)

 

fanciful? perhaps, i dunno. but i find it interesting that you agree the two beliefs are equally implausible and yet you've picked one and seem defiant in your choice.

i'm not arguing the cause of the universe cannot exist. i'm just pointing out that "god" as a precusor seems like a stop-gap to the previous pre-cursor. what came "before" time seems like an invalid question by definition. i've always considered the concept of god to be anthropomorphic, but if he is essentially totally incomprehensible (eg, not bound by the notion of time), then i wonder why one would even try to comprehend him.

 

Not really, because you can see evolution today. What’s the name of that amphibian that can live in and out of water? Can't think of it's name. There's the link between Amphibians and Reptiles. Plus, the theory that basically, a bolt of lightning hit a pile of goo, and then life formed from that was proven to be a real possibility when Dr. Stanley Miller and Dr. Sidney Fox designed a Pyrex apparatus containing methane, ammonia, and water vapor, but no oxygen. Through this mixture they passed electric sparks to simulate lightning strikes. The results were amino acids, the building blocks of life. Also, if you look at the embryos of a bird, a fish, a lizard, and a human, they look strikingly similar. Not to mention that the amino acid sequence between a Chimp and a human is 99% the same. Now why would God go to so much trouble to make it look like evolution is right if it's wrong? All the miracles and supernatural events that occurred in biblical times, why don’t they happen anymore? Does God all of the sudden not give a shit whether anyone believes in him or not?

 

Actually you made my point for me. Even if God was the creator of life, doesnt he have to come from somewhere as well? So neither one is more valid over the other IMO. So I'll go with the one with more proof.

 

My bio is a little rusty, but the big bang theory basically says that the universe was a tightly packed mass, that all of the sudden exploded, and the universe expanded and continued to expand into the universe we have today, and is still expanding today. Couldn't that compacted universe have always existed just as much as God?

 

The Miller experiment has been debunked. The fact that it is still referenced in text books is a travesty. The embryos do not look similar, the original drawings were fudged. No evolutionist even makes that argument anymore. The DNA sequence is what you mean and that also doesn't mean a thing because much of the similarity can be attributed to the structural similarity of dna is general. We also share dna similarities with bananas, horses, and dogs. Recent studies show the diffence in dna similarity is closer to 10% and the differences contain enough information to be contained in 120 million encyclopedia sets.

We see miracles every day. They still happen.

 

No just rusty, completed incorrect and outdated.

 

I was not aware of that.

Nor that.

Thanks for killing my arguement, but if all of what you're saying it true, why is it still taught like fact? I was taught that all of that was basically scientific fact.

I haven’t seen anyone resurrected from the dead lately, or any prophets or preachers rise up into the heavens, have you?

 

Then please tell us what it really is.

 

I have, twice in this thread. The commonly accepted theory now is that there was nothing. No matter, energy, or time, and then there was.