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When did you accept God in your life, or realize you did not believe in him?

Discussion in 'Religion & Spirituality Forum' started by vpkozel, Mar 31, 2004.

  1. Galethog

    Galethog Arrogant SumBitch

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    The same place that God came from?
     
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    Superfluous_Nut pastor of muppets

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    who created god? (please, nobody say "man". i mean, from the perspective of a monotheist).
     
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    slydevl Asshole for the People!

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    The majority of cosmologists believe there was a beginning to our universe. Time, energy, and matter did not exist and then they did. They agree that there was a cause that transcended all three. Not one single one has a clue as to what that cause was. God from the earliest was described as transcending all three.

    It takes a pretty simple mind to not be able to understand that you cannot think of the cause of the universe in terms of time.
     
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    slydevl Asshole for the People!

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    What created the cause of the cosmos when before there was nothing? If it is fanciful to believe in a transcendent God, it is fanciful to believe what most, and by most I'm talking like 90%, of cosmologists believe for the same reasons. You are basically arguing that the cause of the universe, be it God or something else, could not exist and therefor the universe can not exist because the cause of the universe must have had the same characteristics we ascribe to God.
     
  5. hasbeen99

    hasbeen99 Fighting the stereotype

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    The Judeo/Christian (and most other versions of) God is believed to be an eternal being -- in other words He had no beginning. He has always been. Granted, that takes some 'outside the box' thinking.

    (Macro)evolution, however, is less believable because the logic of it breaks down so badly. There is a significant difference between being outside the bounds of the physical realm, and being full of holes.
     
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    Sure, and that's sort of my point. It seems like several items have been re-dated based on corroborating evidence which has overridden early carbon dating results. However, I can't think of any specifically, to be honest.
     
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    Scientists use it because it's the best estimating method available. And they'll continue to use it and refine it as they learn more, and adjust their results accordingly. I'm not saying it isn't a useful tool. I'm saying it's not as infallible as most would have us believe.
     
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    More, actually, IMO.
     
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    That's where macroevolution breaks down. God is ethereal, evolution is confined to the material. And every shred of evidence I've heard of in the material world suggests it had a beginning.
     
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    Galethog Arrogant SumBitch

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    To answer the question at the beginning of this thread, I was "saved" Sept 12th, 1982. It didn't take. I don't have an exact date when I became an atheist, it occured over a number of years.
     

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