When did you accept God in your life, or realize you did not believe in him?

I think that teh Red Sea is pretty abundant in marine life. It's a huge dive destination. I'm also pretty sure that whale sharks live there too.

Plus - Egypt borders the Med too, and since Moses was raised in a life of privilege, I think it is pretty likely that he would have seen that as well. How old was he when he found out his true identity?

 

A)Mathmatics has nothing to do with evolution and is the only pure science
B)Far too much "science" consists of tossing out guesses which they call theories which are then taught as fact until evidence comes along disproving them which spawns a new rash of guesses. What has been and is now being taught as science over the years is just as imaginary as you claim religion is.

 

I saw something on TV recently that was trying to explain how the red sea may have parted. I think their best guess was a tsunami.

 

I'll agree that science would have a seriously hard time disproving a miracle, other than to deduce that it is impossible by natural and physical standards. No surprise there, of course -- a miracle by it's very definition supercedes natural law.

But there is much in the Bible that could hypothetically be disproven by science. Cultural context, the existence of certain people, events that may have never taken place (wars and such), etc. Like Sly said -- if an archeologist ever digs up Jesus' bones, I'm through.

 

Thanks, but I doubt it. I'm just as dependent on grace as anyone else, and more than many -- believe me.

 

D'OH!

I hereby retract my previous statement that Moses knew nothing about marine wildlife. I was completely in error, and will amend any future statements to reflect this lesson.

I considered that. I'm pretty sure he was in his 20's or perhaps his 30's when he killed that slave driver and fled into the wilderness. Yes, he was raised as a son of the Pharoah, so he was educated. I would think his education consisted of history, Egyptian religion, architecture, agriculture, etiquette, and combat. The rest I can't be sure of, but it may have included some natural science. Egypt, at the time was one of the most powerful and advanced civilizations on the planet, so a broad education may have included many exclusive areas of study. I just don't know enough about it to say for sure.

 

And yet, even mathematics has it's theoretical pursuits and areas of study.

I agree with the former, but don't know if I join you with the latter necessarily. At least, not on a universal scale. Now I know your formal education far exceeds mine, Sly, so I'll throw that qualifier in immediately. But imaginary seems like it might be a bit of an exaggeration. I have no doubt that many schools are teaching theoretical sciences as fact, but even those teachings must have some basis in established knowledge, don't they?

 

How did they work that out? Do you remember?

 

if you ignore applied sciences and their true results. i mean, we're having this discussion using devices that simply couldn't exist without science. so yeah, theories are just guesses, but they're good guesses that fit all the known observable data -- which makes them indistinguishable from facts, really.

 

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