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When did you accept God in your life, or realize you did not believe in him?

Discussion in 'Religion & Spirituality Forum' started by vpkozel, Mar 31, 2004.

  1. slydevl

    slydevl Asshole for the People!

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    The theory describes speciation. It is also a guess and nothing else. It is not a part of the theory of evolution which describes extremely slow change.
     
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    vpkozel Professional Calvinballer

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    Um - didn't he part one?
     
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    KrisJenkins77 Yes. Yes I was driving.

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    hasbeen99 Fighting the stereotype

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    No, of course not. What Sly is referring to is a whole list of incidents, some natural some not, that were verified to some degree by archeology. Your scenario is one isolated incident. The Bible covers a laundry list of incidents spanning over thousands of years.
     
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    I don't think that's universal, but I would agree with that for the most part.

    I agree -- religion is far too dogmatic to be open to correction and/or criticism. However, faith (i.e. trust) is something that can be more flexible. That's the difference.
     
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    You're right -- I responded as if it was a certainty, and it's not. I think what the satellites show very likely is the remains of the ark, but I wouldn't bet my life on it, or any amount of money. But like I said in my earlier post, if it isn't, no big deal. It could easily be completely decomposed by now, meaning it'll never be found. That's fine by me, my faith wasn't built on that, and doesn't rest on it.
     
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    The logistical aspects of it don't really work, do they? I tend to think that God did continue to create new species after the flood. The only evidence I have of that is the new species that seem to keep popping up from time to time all over the planet.

    I also think that for the Noah's ark story to work, God would have had to intervene as far as keeping the animals healthy. It rained and flooded for over a month, but they were afloat for much, much longer. The ark's size is specifically outlined in Genesis. The variables are the number of animals and the amount of food. Personally, my theory is that God worked a miracle in that He somehow He make enough room inside the ark for everything to fit. (Poor example maybe, but think of and "enlargement charm" from the Harry Potter series.) If I'm right, it wasn't the only time a 'something from nothing' sort of miracle appears in the Bible.
     
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    This is another scenario I agree is very possible.
     
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    Superfluous_Nut pastor of muppets

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    describes speciation...? you say that like it's somehow different from the generic term of evolution. is that because you don't believe lots of little changes can add up to large changes? so varieties of species make sense and maybe even genera, but any more substantial change is inconceivable. is that right?

    and again, evolution doesn't address rate of change, only the change itself. i don't believe darwin's original theory of natural selection describes anything about a time frame aside from "generations".
     
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    My phone's ringing every 90 to 120 seconds. :thud:
     

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