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When did you accept God in your life, or realize you did not believe in him?

Discussion in 'Religion & Spirituality Forum' started by vpkozel, Mar 31, 2004.

  1. Superfluous_Nut

    Superfluous_Nut pastor of muppets

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    yeah, scientists have a nasty habit of learning things.
     
  2. slydevl

    slydevl Asshole for the People!

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    Yep, you are obviously poorly schooled. Don't even know Katie Put Candy On Father's Good Shirt
     
  3. slydevl

    slydevl Asshole for the People!

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    I guess, if blind flailing can be called learning. You must be learning right now.
     
  4. Superfluous_Nut

    Superfluous_Nut pastor of muppets

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    no, i'm pretty well schooled. your assertion that we're not talking about species and instead talking about "whole phyla" is a bit odd to me. "whole phyla" doesn't mean anything in this context. many of the animals found in the cambrian "explosion" are the sole examples of their particular phylum. how does an animal get classified into a particular phylum? it's totally arbitrary. theoretically, animals that share a common ancestry should be in the same branch, be it order or family or whatever. oh wait. you probably don't believe in any of that since you don't seem to believe in genetic branches.

    given that these animals are about as old as we've seen, the concept of ancestry is moot. given that they're also extinct, the need to seperate them into specific classes or groups or species doesn't exist -- they're dead ends.
     
  5. slydevl

    slydevl Asshole for the People!

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    Tose phyla are not represented in the fossil record before the cambrian period.

    "All the known phyla, except one, along with the oddities with which I began this discussion, first appear in the Cambrian period. There are no ancestors. There are no intermediates. "
     
  6. Superfluous_Nut

    Superfluous_Nut pastor of muppets

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    that has since been amended.

    from your wikki reference:

    According to more recent research, only some phyla appear in the Cambrian explosion. On talkorigins.org, in response to the Creationist claim of sudden appearance, Mark Isaak [Isaak 2004] gives the following summary:

    Only some phyla appear in the Cambrian explosion. In particular, all plants post-date the Cambrian, and flowering plants, by far the dominant form of land life today, only appeared about 140 Mya [Brown 1999]. Even among animals, not all types appear in the Cambrian. Cnidarians, sponges, and probably other phyla appeared before the Cambrian. Molecular evidence shows that at least six animal phyla are Precambrian [Wang et al. 1999]. Bryozoans appear first in the Ordovician. Many other soft-bodied phyla don't appear in the fossil record until much later. Although many new animal forms appeared during the Cambrian, not all did. According to one reference [Collins 1994], 11 of 32 metazoan phyla appear during the Cambrian, one appears Precambrian, 8 after the Cambrian, and 12 have no fossil record.
     
  7. slydevl

    slydevl Asshole for the People!

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    So we go from one to 11. Point made. Game won in that it caused evolutionists to spasm and start tossing out unverified shit like punctuated equilibrium. Science takes a black eye.
     
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    HardHarry Rebel with a 401(k)

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    I love it when Sly ignores the importance of the fossil record's evolution in this equation.

    Sly, you sure do spend a lot of time busting out the "owned" phrases on a no-sniping board. :banned:
     
  9. KrisJenkins77

    KrisJenkins77 Yes. Yes I was driving.

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    Kingdom, Phyla, Class, Order, Family, Genus, Species right?
     
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    slydevl Asshole for the People!

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    I knew you were a whiner I just didn't know how much. Owned means "you're wrong". If you can't say that on this forum I don't want to be a member anyway.
     

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