Weinke and the 3-4

Listened to Fox on Panther Talk - he was discussing that Weinke's preseason struggles seemed to escalate as the complexity of the defensive schemes escalating.

That said, our first game is against the 3-4. Fox is a defense guy. Peete's probably seen a ton of 3-4.

I thought that was interesting.

Fox said his dream was to have Chris look back at this and call it the thing that gave him the fire to become great.

 

I'm just glad Fox and or his staff had the balls to step up and do this. If this does give Winky some fire - great. Right now he has been playing like a guy that thinks he can be average and still be the best on this team... and that is hogwash.

 

Funny Fox should mention that. If he and Henning wanted to see what Weinke could do, why didn't they game plan at the very least the 3rd preseason game? They had film of the Patriots, they didn't do anything that much different from what they did last year on defense. Game planning could have given Weinke options against the blitz. Seems the early articles about Fox having a bias against Weinke are true and no amount of spin from him, Henning, or either QB is going to change that. Even should Weinke reclaim the job after Peete flops, he's as good as gone after the year.

 

He didn't say that they didn't game plan, just as the defenses got more complex, Weinke struggled more.

Not arguing with you, just I think you missed the point. They don't trust Weinke. That's the point.

We'll see Sunday. Baltimore's Offense looks as bad as ours.

 

They didn't game plan, that's the point. Fox apparently had his mind made up when he came here Weinke wasn't his guy. Why give the guy an opportunity to prove the coach wrong? Why's he still here? Fuck up a guy's limited career just to prove a point? I'm beginning to have questions about the entire organization. It's been a clusterfuck since '96 showing no signs of improvement. Sure we've made a few good draft picks lately, but damn as soon as they're FA's do you really think they're gonna want to stay here with this shit going on? Outside of Minter how many of our UFA's (starters) have we re-signed? We're becoming the Hornets of the NFL in that category.

 

Not only that, but he was around at a time that the 3-4 was still big. Both times actually.

It's a valid point, meat. I dont' remember a lot of tentativeness reading complex coverages - though it's often hard to tell on first sight what coverage is being run - but he struggled the more pressure came in.
Of course, Fasani did too. he just ran earlier.

 

well put!

 

There was certainly a point to that. He certainly struggled against blitzing teams last year. Might be part of it.

When you don't know the offense, you don't make the decisions quickly. This is the second year in a row that Weinke has struggled learning a new offense.

Still, if they wanted a guy who knows the fucking offense, why not put Henning out there. Hey, he knows the offense.

 

If you have tapes of the Dallas and New England games listen to Rozinski. He said plainly the coaches hadn't game planned and in the New England game said they hadn't even practiced blitz pickups. God forbid, but Fox may suffer fron Dom Capers Syndrome. It makes you one hell of a Defensive coordinator but a less than stellar Head Coach.

 

The same might could be said for Buddy Ryan, Tony Dungy, and George Seifert. Take it from Spurrier, if you don't know that side of the ball, hire someone who does, and then let him do it