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Undrafted FA's

Discussion in 'Carolina Panthers' started by T_Schroll, Apr 27, 2003.

  1. T_Schroll

    T_Schroll Full Access Member

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    http://nfldraft.theinsiders.com/2/107632.html

    Hopefully we don't sit on our ass while some of these guys go to other teams.

    My list:

    Torrin Tucker G
    Robert Johnson TE
    Will Ofenhuesle OT
    Avon Colbourne RB
    Colin Cole DT
    Anthony Davis G
    Tony Romo QB
    LaMarcus McDonald OLB
    Earnest Graham RB
    Jason Gesser QB
    Zack Hilton TE
    James Lynch FB
     
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  2. y2b

    y2b King of QC

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    ESPN.com QB evaluation: Jason Gesser
    By Gary Danielson
    Special to ESPN.com

    Jason Gesser
    23
    Washington St.
    17
    QB

    Height
     6'1"

    Weight
     200 lbs.

    Year
     Senior

    2002 stats
     92-148, 1,282 yards, 11 TDs, 3 INTs

    Career stats
     467-864, 6,704 yards, 53 TDs, 29 INTs

    QB SPECIFICS

    Arm Strength
    B
    Average, but I will say again that I think this is the least important of these categories. Arm strength is not how Jason makes plays and is not a big part of his game.

    Escape Ability
    A
    There is nobody better in the pocket. There are guys who are better once they break the line of scrimmage, but no one is better than Jason at escaping disaster behind the line and making the defense cover receivers for five or six seconds. His scrambles are at times reminiscent of Fran Tarkenton.

    Quick Set Up
    A
    Jason runs a lot of shotgun but still has great feet, so there are no questions about his set up. He can make any kind of pass whether bootlegging, scrambling, etc., and can do whatever he wants with his feet.

    Accuracy Long
    B
    He throws the long ball rather high to some spots, and Jason is not likely to attack downfield. I would put Jason in the same category Drew Brees was in at Purdue. The accuracy is good, but the throws are more timing routes than anything else.

    Accuracy Short
    A
    One of the great things about Jason's short accuracy is that he can throw every pass. Whether he has to zip the ball between two defenders, throw it behind his body or against the grain he is accurate with it. He is as good as any quarterback in college football in this phase of the game.

    Locate 2nd Receiver
    A
    Mike Price's offense demands that Jason be good in this area. He is counted on to control the offense with his mind and decision-making, and he does that continually.

    Running Ability
    A-
    Jason is a great scrambler and a decent runner. Running is not something he wants to do, but he is good at it when he decides to take off.

    Quickness of Delivery
    A-
    Not only does Jason have a quick delivery it comes at times when you least expect it. He can throw off the wrong foot, he can throw backing up and it seems like he enjoys throwing when he is in odd positions or with his feet at the wrong angle. His quickness is tremendous from all those positions

    Judgment
    A
    He guns the ball into spots a little too much at times, takes some gambles, but Jason has to do that in the offense he runs. He is willing and able to take some chances, and his judgment in controlling the flow and tempo of a game is excellent.

    Poise
    A
    Like I said abut Dave Ragone, Jason is used to the attention and pressure. He came from a powerful program at Honolulu St. Louis High and was anointed early as the quarterback at Washington State. Jason is in his third year as a captain for the Cougars and was voted in as a sophomore. That has played an important role in developing his poise and is emblematic of the kind of player and leader he is.

    SUMMARY

    Jason is the best player in football that no one has heard of. Playing where he does at Washington State he doesn't get the exposure that even a guy like Seneca Wallace gets at Iowa State. Jason has been playing at a high level for more than two years and he is a nightmare to defend in Mike Price's offense.
     
  3. Piper

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    Bring Gesser in to compete with Fasani. Its a crime he went undrafted.

    We had Davis in for a workout. I guess we didn't like him enough to take him. We had other needs, two drafted lineman was probably enough. he could come in.

    Willie O, maybe. Very strong player. Very stiff. Kind of tall for a guard. But a mauler. Suprised he went undrafted, thought he'd go late. Hell, bring him in. If he can't beat our Jeno or Tuten, he just sucks anyway and will never amount to anything.



    I think Avon will find a place somewhere and could be this years undrafted running back steal that comes out each year. Not fast, not big, but runs hard and makes good cuts and has good power. Very Shipp like.
     
  4. PantherPaul

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    I heard that teams only offer these guys contracts of 20k that takes them through training camp and then they get rookie minimum contracts with virtually no signing bonus.
     
  5. T_Schroll

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    Some do get bonuses but not megabucks bonuses. An extra 10-20Knay swing some of the more quality guys our way. It'd be worth it.
     
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    LarryD autodidact polymath

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    i'll guarantee that none of those guys will be brought in. each year, i have a list and there's never one of my guys on it.

    blah.
     
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    rake Need one of these

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    Me too Larry. Every guy I want them to bring in someone else gets. This year I will stay out of it in hope the superstitious hope that at least one of my "can't believe he wasn't drafted" guys will get a legit chance here.
     
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    Torrin Tucker G
    Robert Johnson TE
    Will Ofenhuesle OT
    Jason Gesser QB

    We're STUPID if we don't at least give these 4 guys a call and invite them to camp.

    Torrin Tucker at the LEAST is a cheaper upgrade over Jeno James.

    Robert Johnson at the LEAST is as good if not better than Mangum. Sure he's slow, but used on a 2 TE set could be a dominating blocker.

    Ofenhuesle could most likely beat Tuten out if the two were competing in training camp.

    Gesser has the ability to out play both Weinke and Fasani in training camp.

    Of course all of these guys would have to PROVE themselves, but I have a feeling they easily could be solid depth for the Panthers.
     
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    I agree!!! I'm never sure how the FA's get to where they go...but it pisses me off when we bring in SQUAT!!!

    Jason Gesser...he damn well better be HERE!!! If not, someone better say they had interest but got outbid! How the hell does Chris Simms get picked ahead of a guy like Gesser??? He had a third the talent around him and did twice as much!!!
     
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    Interesting thing about Rookie FA is that sometimes they get to PICK which team they goto, where if they're drafted, they don't.
     

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