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UNC-Wilmington football?

Discussion in 'College Football Forum' started by markinconcord, Nov 17, 2005.

  1. markinconcord

    markinconcord Full Access Member

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    UNC-Wilmington would have built in rivals

    With UNC-Pembroke starting a program and Coastal Carolina already in place, plus Colonial League teams, the Seahawks could have some pretty close rivals to start.

    From my understanding, UNC-W has the largest campus (land wise) in the UNC system. Western Carolina just bought a large tract across the street and I'm not sure where they would put them size wise.

    As far as Title IX, schools that want to make it work find a way. There appears to be no will to do so at UNC-Charlotte.
     
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    I will be first in line to watch average college football. Why. Because I have two div.1 alma maters and neither one had a football team. I swear I didn't plan it that way.
     
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    I say good luck to all these schools wanting football, hope there are deep pockets. ODU, UNC Pembroke and UNC Wilmington are considering going one direction while other schools are cutting back, notably East Tennessee State. Few athletic programs make money. Cincinnati's football program lost $1.5 million last year, their basketball program made $600,000.

    mark, UNCC wants to first fully scholarship all the current sports, which is only 114 of 133 (85% right now). The state doesn't provide any funding for sports (and shouldn't) other than land usage. For the first time ever, over $1 million was raised in 2004-05 for scholarships. However, with education costs rising, they are farther away from being a fully funded athletic department than five years ago. But the good news is that for 18 consecutive semesters the student-athlete GPA has been higher than that of the rest of the student body. 87% of the student-athletes who have completed their eligibility since 1993 graduated, a rate that almost doubles that of the general student body at UNC Charlotte.

    If you can't fund 133 scholarships now, how can you add an additional 63 for D-IAA or 85 for D-IA plus equal numbers for Title IX compliance? That doesn't include the additional costs of facilities, equipment, travel and staff. (See below for scholarship maximums per sport. What women's sports do you add to equal the numbers in football? Or do you eliminate a few current sports maybe to free up scholarships?)

    Last of all, if there is little interest from the casual sports fan in Charlotte and won't help fill Halton Arena, will they come support a start-up, sorry-ass college football team or drive to Chapel Hill, Clemson, Columbia, or Raleigh?

    I'd love to see a football team on campus, but I don't expect it any time soon.


    Men's Sports: Baseball - 11.7, Basketball – 13, Cross Country/Track and Field - 12.6, Fencing - 4.5, Football – 85/63, Golf - 4.5, Gymnastics - 6.3, Hockey - 30, Lacrosse - 12.6, Rifle - 3.6, Skiing - 6.3, Soccer - 9.9, Swimming - 9.9, Tennis - 4.5, Volleyball - 4.5, Water Polo - 4.5, Wrestling - 9.9

    Women's Sports: Archery - 5, Badminton - 6, Basketball - 15, Bowling - 5, Cross Country/Track and Field - 18, Equestrian - 15, Fencing - 5, Field Hockey - 12, Golf - 6, Lacrosse - 12, Rowing - 20, Rugby - 20, Skiing - 7, Soccer - 12, Softball - 12, Squash - 12, Swimming - 14, Synchronized Swimming - 5, Team Handball - 10, Tennis - 6, Water Polo - 8
     
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    Wow, I not sure what's more surprising...that Badminton is a college sport or the fact they you can get a 'ship for it.
     
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    love it.....team handball?? :banginghe
     
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    Title IX is fucking ridiculous. Thank you Congress, you dumb pieces of shit.
     
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    Title IX is today's world......progress and change happen whether we agree or not! Comply!!
     
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    I'm all for progress and change. What I'm not for is mindless tokenism without a thought to how it affects people. How is it reasonable to say that it's ok for men to get screwed by having many of their sports canceled or cut just because schools are required to have as many athletic scholarships for women as men, when far less women even want to play collegiate sports?
     
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    Title IX is an excuse

    School support is the real issue. It seems there are a lot of schools that are not having a Title IX problem, ASU, WCU, and others. Unfortunately UNC-Charlotte is considered second rate in athletics by many fans and that is why their programs suffer in funding. Alumni and so-called supporters must show a can do attitude if they hope to improve that situation. But at the same token, I must say the athletic facilities at the school are vastly improved over the past few years.
     
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    Wrong mark, as someone who served as a student assistant in the athletic department for 5 years and has served on the alumni board of governors, I beg to disagree. Those schools already had football in place and only had to add the women's sports to be Title IX compliant, notably less expensive to fund. Also, those schools were playing football when money was no object. They also are older than UNC Charlotte and have endowments that are greater than UNCC's.

    The only part you are close to being correct on is that there is a lack of support from the general alumni and student population. I don't know the solution to that, it seems that everything that is tried fails. And at this point, the avergage graduate is in their 30s-40s and doesn't have large disposable amounts of money to contribute. It might surprise you to know that UNCC ranks 15th of 16 UNC system schools in funding per student, while being 4th in student numbers. So yes, they've done more with far less than the folks in Chapel Hil and Raleigh.

    As far as athletic facilities go, the Barnhardt SAC/Halton Arena, Belk Track & Field Stadium/Transamerica Field, Miltimore-Wallis Center and Wachovia Fieldhouse have been built since 1994, costing $40 million.
     

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