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UNC Critics STFU

Discussion in 'Charlotte Hornets' started by UncOverDukeEasy, Jan 18, 2003.

  1. BearBryant

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    UNCC would have to play around 10 away games and play 3 small schools at home the first year, maybe 2. No big schools would would come here and financially it would be better for UNCC to play away. We are talking $250,000 a game to play the ACC, SEC, Big 10, Big 12 teams. That is a bunch of money to help get a program started.
     
  2. UNCfever

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    And not sure, but does anybody have any links about information of schools recently who have started Div. I football for the first ever?

    I just don't see how it could be done with a fairly new school like that? Although Charlotte is starting to get some deep pockets outside of a few people, just not sure how many of them went to UNCC or are originally from the area to care?
     
  3. BearBryant

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    UAB is fairly new.
     
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    UAB didnt even begin competing in any athletics until 1977. Football began in 1989.
     
  5. UNCfever

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    I would be curious as to the history of how that started.
     
  6. HighPoint49er

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    Could UNCC meet the following:
    Effective on Aug. 1, 2004. According to the new NCAA policy, schools seeking Division I-A status would have to meet the following criteria:
    *Annually award 90 percent of the permissible maximum number of football scholarships. That would amount to 77 grants under current policy. The Division I-AA maximum is 63. NO
    *Play five home games a year against other I-A schools. DOUBTFUL
    *Sponsor at least 16 varsity sports, at least six for men and at least eight for women. YES, doing so now
    *Average 15,000 in home football attendance. DOUBTFUL

    A 2001 NCAA study found:
    *Division I-A football revenues range from $411,000 to $32 million.
    *Division I-A football expenses range from $1.6 million to $16 million.
    *Division I-A football profits/losses range from $22 million to -$3.8 million.
    *Division I-AA football revenues range from $13,000 to $3.1 million.
    *Division I-AA football expenses range from $230,000 to $2.8 million.
    *On average, revenues in the bottom quartile of Division I-A are similar to revenues in the top quartile of Division I-AA; however, expenses are much higher in the bottom quartile of Division I-A.

    A little known fact is that in the 50 states, only 2 states do not provide some sort of budget for state-run college athletics: Oklahoma (speaks for itself) and North Carolina. Any athletic department monies in this state come from student fees, ticket sales, media fees, advertising and corporate/private contributions. Is Bank of America going to give UNCC $20 to beging a football program? No, but they've probably provided close to that in other contributions for the University.

    From the UAB perspective, their entire atletic program is in SERIOUS jeapordy! IE: the UA-Tuscaloosa politicians don't want any more competition other than Auburn in the state. "At the announcement’s onset, the athletic program was approximately $7.6 million in debt, a third of which was attributed to the football team... Both (Brian) Mackin and (Watson) Brown stressed a point that only about 20-30 university athletic departments, of 117 Division I-A schools, are making profits." This has been a major story on the Birmingham campus since April. Sadly, as good a man as Gene Bartow was, he obviously never had to report to anyone above him on a budget when he was athletic director.

    UAB athletics in jeopardy
    By John Bednarowski, Sports Editor & Jason Cannon, News Editor
    Posted April 23, 2002

    Sports at UAB could be teetering on the verge of extinction.

    The University of Alabama System Trustees unanimously voted to discontinue funding of Blazer athletic programs with state funding and university discretionary funds if the department is not fiscally profitable by September 2004.

    Budget reports show the UAB athletic department lost $7.6 million last year.

    Trustees said the expense is unacceptable when the state’s schools are struggling with money woes.

    “We could hire new teachers and give pay raises with $7 million,” UA Trustee Joe Fine said.

    UAB’s athletic department has been operating in the red for several years.

    The university has been using presidential discretionary funds to subsidize the failing programs.

    The decision caught members of the athletic department by surprise.

    “It absolutely came out of left field,” Athletic Director Herman Frazier told the WJOX afternoon radio show.

    Louisville is the only football team in C-USA not subsidized by the school.

    Both Frazier and Watson Brown, the head coach of UAB football, fear that this decision may have damaged an already embattled program.

    Brown assured his players that he would strive to make UAB a first-class program.

    An amendment provides for a senior associate athletic director to rally boosters, raise attendance at events and bolster marketing.

    The football program’s portion of the deficit was $2.5 million; the basketball team lost about $400,000 last year and women’s sports lost $2.8 million.

    UAB fields 15 athletic teams in NCAA competition, and is a founding member of Conference-USA.

    Here is the text from an October story from the UAB student newspaper.
    Trustee’s decree: Six month progress report
    By Jon Paolone, Senior Staff Writer
    Posted October 28, 2002

    Will UAB still have an athletic program team two years from now?

    As reported in the Kaleidoscope on April 23, 2002, the University of Alabama system Board of Trustees issued a statement on April 15 saying that, in effect, UAB’s athletic program would have to show a profit, or the entire department would be eliminated.

    At the announcement’s onset, the athletic program was approximately $7.6 million in debt, a third of which was attributed to the football team.

    Former UAB baseball player Brian Mackin was hired as senior associate athletic director as part of a stipulation in the trustees’ resolution.

    “I saw several of my alum friends who were upset,” Mackin said of the initial reaction. “I couldn’t understand why that couldn’t be handled. I wanted to help any way I could. I was shocked, I guess.”

    Mackin’s mission was to take charge of fundraising, marketing and promotions for the athletic program.

    The two biggest pieces to this puzzle are decreasing the athletic budget and increasing revenue.

    According to interim athletic director Watson Brown, the budget can’t go any lower.

    “Our sports programs are at the bottom of C-USA in funding, and that’s not just football, that’s every sport,” Brown said.

    “I don’t say that in a negative (way) because, really, I think it’s been a positive that we can have really small budgets and win games. But I don’t think we can go much further with budgets. Our issues now are revenues.”

    Both Mackin and Brown stressed a point that only about 20-30 university athletic departments, of 117 Division I-A schools, are making profits.

    “This is not a state of Alabama problem, this is a national problem. No one in our conference as a football-playing school is making money,” Mackin said.

    “It’s magnified a little here because the press jumped on this,” Brown said.

    However, that doesn’t change the fact that the trustees want to see Blazer athletics self-sufficient, and in two years.

    Another obstacle in reducing the $7 million deficit, and the primary focus is increasing revenue.

    While complete figures are not yet available, both Mackin and Brown are upbeat about the situation.

    “As far as I’m comfortable to say, we are ahead of our revenue from last year, in football,” Mackin said.

    Brown reiterated that he is “very positive” about the progress that is being made, especially in fundraising.

    “I got in the community with Brian, we saw 40 corporate places in August.”

    According to Brown, they were greeted with a responsive attitude and a willingness to help now or in the near future.

    Steps being taken to increase revenue are focused on fundraising and ticket sales.

    “Since I’ve taken over, we’ve raised quite a bit of money just in a couple of months’ time,” Brown said.

    Brown said they hoped to increase the number of Golden 100 and Team UAB members, as well as upping the number of tickets sold.

    According to Mackin, the goal for ticket sales is to make between $450,000 and $500,000 more than last year.
     
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    Me too:D
     
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    Your name and this thread both sy the same thing....You are a total dumbass!
     
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    :bump: :D
     

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