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Truth vs Facts

Discussion in 'Religion & Spirituality Forum' started by BigVito, Mar 24, 2004.

  1. Rob

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    I could have posted this myself. I would have only had to change a couple of small details. You are smarter than me VI. I waited until I was about 43. I sure wish I could have about 20 of those wasted years back.
     
  2. Village Idiot

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    Isnt it a shame that youth is wasted on the young? :)
     
  3. Rob

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    Yes. This really spoke to me.

    excerpted from John Ortberg's book If You want to walk on water you have to get out of the boat

    The Common Cold of the Soul

    To sinful patterns of behavior that never get confronted and changed,
    Abilities and gifts that never get cultivated and deployed--
    Until weeks become months
    And months turn into years,
    And one day you're looking back on a life of
    Deep intimate gut-wrenching honest conversations you never had;
    Great bold prayers you never prayed,
    Exhilarating risks you never took,
    Sacrificial gifts you never offered
    Lives you never touched,
    And you're sitting in a recliner with a shriveled soul,
    And forgotten dreams,
    And you realize there there was a world of desperate need,
    And a great God calling you to be part of something bigger than yourself---
    You see a person you could have become but did not;
    You never followed your calling.
    You never got out of the boat.

    There is no tragedy like the tragedy of the unopened gift.
     
  4. Village Idiot

    Village Idiot cloud of dust

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    Thats good stuff Rob.
     
  5. VOR

    VOR OnlyU CanPreventRelection

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    she said redundant experiments. If the experiment is flawed then contrary results will emerge or results other than those predicted by the theory but supported by the experiment will emerge. then you will know either the experiment or the theory is flawed. The problem with truth is that it is usually formed by concensus and has nothing to do with experimentation. Facts are determined by experimentation, truth is the result of analytical discourse regarding the facts.
     
  6. hasbeen99

    hasbeen99 Fighting the stereotype

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    Good post, VOR. :xyzthumbs
     
  7. vpkozel

    vpkozel Professional Calvinballer

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    I disagree on the first part. If everyone builds in the same assumptions - which later turn out to be untrue - into their experiaments, then they would all be wrong.

    I agree with you on the second part though.
     
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    hasbeen99 Fighting the stereotype

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    That's true. There's always a danger that something could be consistently wrong.
     
  9. BigVito

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    Bump because I feel this ties into Mark's thread about the Bible a bit.
     

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