Truth vs Facts

Looks like it.

 

Yes, it does - and I think that is crap. She defines fact as those things that have been VERIFIABLE by repetitive experiments, which is a very bad definition. I can have a flawed experiement that gives me a result over and over - it does not make theresult true however.

So I would like to know what she considers to fall into that category - because there is very little that is considered scientific fact.

 

I agree that his deleting that was crap. Is this going to be a place for intelligent discussion or the let Miss_Tery say whatever she wants without confrontation forum?

Edit: Just saw that he deleted her post too. I don't understand. Can posts not spawn other discussion's?

The best discussion's on religion are free flowing. You keep it too rigid you will bore and lose the audience. JMO.

 

This post?

 

Oops. Guess he did show some favoritism there.

I don't get that at all. Moderation should not be heavy handed or biased. Less is definately more in this situation.

 

I've found the same to be true for me.

As we've discussed before, so much of what non-Christians see of Christianity is the Falwell/Roberston version which is a very limited view of the faith but it is the public face for most. I'll use Literal Creationism as an example. When one hears that the Bible is the literal and inerrant word of God, it gives the non-believer great pause. Some guy on TV tells us that the world was created in 7 days and that the Earth is around 6000 years old flies in the face of what we "know" to be true. For the non-believer the switch is now in the off postition. The symbolism and truths of the tale of a Paradise Lost, of brother killing brother are now are lost to both sides.

I highly recommend Campbell's works to any on this board. When I read him first over 20 years ago, he opened me up to things that I'd never considered before. While most of his work is heavily influenced by Jungian ideas, it still opens up a new way of viewing the stories we learned in Sunday School for believers and non-believers alike.

 

You know what? I was 35 when I got saved. I had the same feelings about TV preachers, the Bible and church folk in general. I was completely turned off by all of it. But one day I had a change of heart. I asked my wife what it took to be saved. She said all that I had to do was to pray the sinners prayer. I cant explain it in words, it was a feeling in my heart that I could not deny. I had lived my life up to that point by my own rules. I was successful, had a great wife and family, well liked at work and by my friends. But something was missing. I drank every day. I smoked dope all day long. I had a foul mouth and was a hothead when I got really drunk, heck I did'nt even have to be that drunk. Deep down inside I knew that I was running from God. Finally I gave in to his call. I repented of my sins and let HIM run my life. I have never looked back or wished for the things that I used to do, although sometimes I do relay old stories for humorous purposes. No man taught me what I have faith in. It comes directly from God and his Holy Spirit. I know this in my heart. I cant show you a scientific survey with charts and references. I can show you my life and the man that I am today as a result of my walk with God. I wanted to know what this was that I was getting into when I chose to follow Jesus Christ. People would tell me all kinds of stuff about church and the way that I should live but I wanted to know for myself. I sat down and read the Bible and Gods Spirit filled me with understanding. Dont ask me to explain creationism or to explain as fact whats in the Bible, I cant do that. One of these days when and if I make it to Heaven there will be an eternity to learn all that stuff. I dont dwell on the small details, I'm looking forward to the reward that lays ahead.

 

No, I deleted your post calling her definition hilarious.

 

If you would've posted this to begin with, it would've been fine.

 

It was "about hilarious." And I stand by that. Her definition was not only incomplete, it was incorrect.

Anyway, no biggie. I did not mean to come across - to either you or miss tery - as accusative. I did not know what had happened to it and figured the logical first place to start was to ask you.

I fully support your no sniping policy - so if you think that I break it, then delete away.