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Total Guitar magazine

Discussion in 'Music Forum' started by Cath Ddu, Aug 8, 2002.

  1. Cath Ddu

    Cath Ddu Guest

    A Total Guitar magazine poll has come up with a list of the top 100 guitarists in the world (as voted for by both readers and celebrities). The top 10 are as follows:

    1. Jimi Hendrix
    2. Jimmy Page
    3. Eric Clapton
    4. Slash
    5. Brian May
    6. Joe Satriani
    7. Eddie Van Halen
    8. Dave Gilmour
    9. Kirk Hammett
    10. Steve Vai

    It's a British magazine, which probably accounts for half the top 10 being English.
     
  2. Chip

    Chip Guest

    QUOTE]The top 10 are as follows: [/QUOTE]
    1. Jimi Hendrix
    2. Jimmy Page
    3. Eric Clapton
    4. Slash
    5. Brian May
    6. Joe Satriani
    7. Eddie Van Halen
    8. Dave Gilmour
    9. Kirk Hammett
    10. Steve Vai

    I'll give 'em Hendrix, Clapton and Vai. What about Pat Martino? Alan Holdsworth? Wayne Krantz? Tony MacAlpine? Steve Morse? Al DiMeola? John McLaughlin?

    Slash? Give me a break. Gilmour? Hardly! Kirk Hammett? You've got to be kidding! Brian May gets the sentimental British nod...There's probably 20 other guitarists who are more worthy than some of those on the list.
     
  3. magnus

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    Hendrix, no contest, and Page and Clapton both deserve to be right up there.
    No real blues guitarists. These guys for all real purposes laid down the very element of guitar work, and most of the guys who looked about and studied various forms of music hold the blues sacred. While I do expect that they have to stay true to the average guitar player's favored forms of music, which explains the presence of Slash or Hammett at all and Van Halen's listing higher than 10, there's no better room for B.B. King? I mean B.B.'s lyrics are allright, and his singing soulful, but he's just a blues singer. Just like Jimi the lyrics were just part of the song, the guitar was the reason to have the song at all. The gold is in the solo, the fact that the song revolves around the melody set by the guitar in the earliest key phrases and then used in the lyrics...and then masterfully countermelodied back with the guitar.

    There are other blues artists as well, and it kinda goes back to your background as to who you might put in there. Some might think Stevie Ray Vaughn deserves to be in this list. Some think Buddy Guy based on his early work. There are plenty worthy.
    I'm not saying push four or five blues players in there, but the end result is that the entire genre comes from the complex early blues and the guitar work that came from it. Metal and hard rock has to be accounted for, and should probably dominate given the audience, but you can't leave out someone as good or better that actually influenced most everyone on the list.

    I never found May to be absolute. He was good, and early for the genre, but he's probably not as good as the guys who are listed below him, and was neither a trendsetter nor amongst the best of his field. He was, to be honest, just someone who was really good at a time when guitar wasn't real hot in popular music.

    I won't bother even suggesting Joe Pass, McLaughlin, Scofield, Metheny, or any other jazz guitarist. Why bother if they can't put a blues man in there?
     
  4. Cath Ddu

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    I agree with both of you! Slash, May, Gilmour and Hammett shouldn't even be there. I'm not a big Satriani fan either, and good as he may be, Page at #2? Great call on McLaughlin - I'd almost forgotten about him! Strangely enough I'm only just getting into Buddy Guy thanks to a thread started by Water Boy on the Lair site. I can see how he influenced people, and IMO Page in particular.
     
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    yeah. I've seen Buddy in person twice now...he has been prime opener for B.B. King the past two times I went to see him. He's very good, but when you take him in a current context all you see is great guitar work, you don't really see the innovation. That's the thing about Hendrix' work when people discount him - it's very hard to realize that nothing sounded like that before him. It's hard to realize sometimes that, before Charlie Parker and Dizzy Gillespie, jazz didn't sound that way. That those progressions, those ideas, they didn't exist. All the things above were major, major causes for the way music has been since the original act happened. That can't be discounted at all. The only thing missing was the fact that Jimi was about to do a jazz side with Gil Evans as producer and musical overseer. I think, given the things that Jimi did with the blues that broke ground for the rock-blues idiom that he never gets credit for, he would have really revolutionalized jazz as well. Add that into the electric things Miles was starting to do and popular music would be nothing like what it currently is. Much of it would still have some level of art to it.

    So yeah, WB was really, really telling in that thread. That stoked me. Things like that make me want to dig deeper.
     
  6. Cath Ddu

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    I feel a life change coming on! A combination of a few ciders, the fact that I've got a Lynyrd Skynyrd CD playing in the background, and the sense of history in this thread, has made me realise that there's life beyond 'Black Rebel Motorcycle Club', who are very big in the UK at the moment (despite being from, I think, San Fran). The future is in the past.
     
  7. Cath Ddu

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    Perhaps it's the cider, but Allen Collins is a contender for the #2 spot at the moment!
     
  8. Piper

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    And don't forget, Jimi's music was one of the inspirations of for Miles' electric jazz/rock fusion sound. I could see Jimi doing the same thing in that context.

    I don't think Gilmour would put himself in that list. He definately needs to be listed in the 100, but not that high. One could argue that the guitarist he replaced was more innovative and important to developing that sound.
     
  9. lex

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    jimmy page #2? no. not on my list. he is #1 still for me.

    hendrix, then clapton...

    pat metheny, srv will be on my list, among othes. am not quite familiar with the others listed, so i will reserve my comment.

    dave matthews would be on my list. that's just me, tho. partial to him.

    the brits love their own. that's cool. wonder if rolling stones magazine have that same list...

    good thread, cath!
    :D
     
  10. Chip

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    My top 75(in no particular order)-
    Adrian Legg Finger-picker extraordinaire
    Al DiMeola Fusion great
    Alan Holdsworth Fusion great
    Albert Collins Blues
    Alex Lifeson Rush
    Alex Skolnick Metal master
    Bill Frisell Eclectic Jazz
    Bireli Lagrene Acoustic master
    Buckethead Shredder
    Buddy Guy Blues
    Carl Filipiak Jazz
    Carl Verheyen Jazz
    Carlos Santana Rock/Blues
    Charlie Byrd Jazz
    Charlie Christian Jazz original
    Charlie Hunter 8-string jazz/funk master
    Chet Atkins Country legend
    Danny Gatton Country master
    Dave Fiuczynski Jazz
    Dick Dale Surf
    Django Reinhardt Jazz original
    Doc Watson Bluegrass original
    Earl Klugh Jazz
    Eddie Van Halen Rock
    Eric Clapton Rock/Blues
    Eric Johnson Rock/Blues
    Frank Gambale Fusion great
    Frank Zappa Rock original
    George Benson Jazz great
    Grant Green Jazz/Funk great
    James Blood Ulmer Jazz
    Jeff "Skunk" Baxter Rock
    Jeff Beck Rock/Blues
    Jerry Garcia Dead
    Jim Hall Jazz
    Jimi Hendrix Rock/Blues
    Jimmy Herring Rock/Blues
    Joe Diorio Jazz/Rock
    Joe Pass Jazz
    Joe Satriani Rock
    John Ambercrombie Jazz
    John Goodsall Fusion great
    John McLaughlin Fusion great
    John Scofield Jazz/Funk great
    Kazumi Watanabe Fusion great
    Larry Carlton Jazz
    Larry Coryell Fusion great
    Lee Ritenour Jazz
    Leo Kottke Finger-picker extraordinaire
    Les Paul Electric guitar original
    Lowell George Little Feat
    Marc Ribot Jazz
    Michael Landau Fusion great
    Mike Keneally Rock/Jazz
    Mike Stern Jazz
    Pat Martino Jazz master
    Pat Metheny Jazz
    Paul Gilbert Rock
    Richard Thompson Folk/Rock
    Robben Ford Jazz/Blues
    Scott Henderson Fusion great
    Shawn Lane Rock
    Sonny Sharrock Jazz
    Steve Khan Jazz
    Steve Kimock Rock/Jazz
    Steve Lukather Rock
    Steve Morse Fusion great
    Steve Vai Rock
    Stevie Ray Vaughan Blues
    Tal Farlow Jazz
    Tommy Bolin Rock
    Tony MacAlpine Rock
    Warren Cuccurullo Rock
    Wayne Krantz Jazz
    Wes Montgomery Jazz
     

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