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Top Ten Greastest Rock Songs????

Discussion in 'Music Forum' started by realtyczar, Mar 29, 2004.

  1. Powerbait

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    Yeah, I don't agree with that list. My personal Top 10 probably wouldn't sniff an all time list.
     
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    Actually I think Rap should be on it!

    Even thought 50 cent was snubbed at this years Grammy's, I think that there should be a Rap song on it. Just as R & R came out of R & B, Rap has evolved as well. I bet if someone stepped up, they could make a case for the 60's fold songs, (Songs that had a message) with R & B. Shaft, Superfly and Sly & the Family stone, leading into Rap. Not sure who should represent that though.
     
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    I think that The Top 10 List" has alot to do with age.

    Someone who is in their 40's (Like me) would have a different Top ten list than 30' or 20's. My mother liked Bob Seager & Frank Sinatra! (About as diverse as you can get). She was in her 60's. I can remember the Beatles on Ed Sullivan, I can't remember Elvis on there. An ALL INCLUSIVE list is a hard thing to come up with.
     
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    Speaking of Outkast, it looks like they're doing one single at a time right now, not 2.
    But the new one's as annoying as the other two, which means it'll probably be around as long. Seems like the more annoying Outkast is, the more airplay it gets, and the more I end up having to like it.
     
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    Outkast is one of the few groups around these days that can claim to have three great albums out.
     
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    Maybe three CURRENT albums out, but not three albums ever. OutKast's song "has a good beat and you can dance to it", but one of the best all time? African slave music comes closer to that title than most any rap music. Exceptions: Run DMC, NWA, Public Enemy, LL Cool J off the top of my head.
     
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    You think LL Cool J is better than Outkast?

    NWA doesn't have 3 great albums. I can only think of one great PE record and one good one. Besides, neither of them are still making records.

    LL Cool J sucks.

    Run DMC are great. I saw them live and the only complaint was that they said goddamn every other word. Sort of like the first time I saw Fuel, they said fuck about 100023525436 times.
     
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    Outkast is hardly rock, I'd call it rap or hip-hop.

    I think that Magnus has it right there in that the best songs would have to be the ones that really alter the definition of rock when they are released. Nirvana, as much as people may dislike them, did that, as did the Beatles, Jimi Hendrix, the Who, Pink Floyd, etc. Personally, I'm a fan of Progressive Rock and progressive metal, etc. so my list would have to include some Rush as well as those guys above.

    Elvis was just a male Britney.
     
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    >>Outkast is hardly rock, I'd call it rap or hip-hop.

    They really fit in hip-hop overall compared to rap lately.

    But the song in question has no rap. It's really not inherently R&B. It's really just pop, and you'd really struggle to make a clear cut line between pop and rock in an electronic, synthesized type setting.

    >>I think that Magnus has it right there in that the best songs would have to be the ones that really alter the definition of rock when they are released.

    thanks :D Of course the only problem with that is that if, for instance, rap/metal dominated and kept pushing "rock", then you'd have huge influences from things like RHCP and Les Claypool that weren't necessarily popular at all in comparison to most. Don't pick at the nit, just go with me. My badly crafted point is this: you can be tremendously influential without being popular, and vice versa, so you have to be all-inclusive. I really coulda said that shorter. Fuck it.

    >>Nirvana,

    some would argue Pearl Jam, but unsuccessfully.

    >>the Beatles, Jimi Hendrix, the Who, Pink Floyd, etc.

    Zep



    >>Elvis was just a male Britney.

    The bulk of his work's merit was made, even popularized, by others in some cases. Certainly Hound Dog isn't "his". But as the first superstar of the genre, nonetheless, you have to put him in there.


    that's the biggest thing, though. It's very hard to put together a definitive list of top tens in anything of music without it clashing with a reader's own tastes.
     
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    that's the biggest thing, though. It's very hard to put together a definitive list of top tens in anything of music without it clashing with a reader's own tastes.[/QUOTE]I think this has been the best post ever. We have not strayed once! I remember back in the early 80's I was at a record atore. It was when "WINGS" ablum was hot. There were 2 14 year olds standing beside me looking at the albums, remember them? (Albums not 14 year olds). Anyway one turned to the other and said "Did you know that Paul McCartney was in a band before wings? My Mother told me!" "Really? What was the name of it?" "I don't remember!" As I walked by them, I told them "The Beatles". They shrugged their shoulder and went on looking.
     

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