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Top Ten Greastest Rock Songs????

Discussion in 'Music Forum' started by realtyczar, Mar 29, 2004.

  1. gutter

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    I think you have to define Rock to make a top ten rock list. I agree that Elvis and Bob Dylan are not rock. Neither is the fucking Outkast.
     
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    In my opinion, his best stuff is his studio stuff. I'm not a fan of jamming, except for the occassional bluegrass (but theirs don't quite last as long usually).

    I think Jimi's version of "The Star Spangled Banner" that everyone loves so much is long and boring. I recognize he's a great guitarist, it's just not my thing. I don't like jam bands, and I particularly don't like DMB. That's cool if you do, it's just not my thing. I also admire people who do things first, whether I like them or not. I'm not a real big fan of "Hard rock" but I really like the Who and Led Zepplin. Even some Black Sabbath songs are ok.

    Elvis was the king of Rock and Roll before any of the bands you people have listed existed. You are changing rock and roll to fit your interpretation. That's all well and good, but their style of music sure doesn't have a more legitimate claim to the title of rock and roll than Elvis' does.

    Bob Dylan isn't rock and roll, he's a folk musician. Sometimes he's considered folk rock (especially after he went electric).
     
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    that's cool. I personally think you're missing the very essence of Jimi Hendrix if all you wish to hear of him is recorded, written out unspontaneous riffs over and over again. But personal preference, it's all good.

    my point, simply put, was that hendrix brought improv to a new level and basically created that music, so to denounce jam in the name of Hendrix is just odd. Understand where you're coming from, you don't like to hear the expressions of a moment or hearing new ideas being expressed, but that was Hendrix.
     
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    No, I don't miss it at all. I understand what he was doing, and appreciate what it was, but just because that's not my style, doesn't mean I miss it.

    If you don't like something, it doesn't mean you don't understand it, you just don't enjoy it. I'm sorry that I don't share your exact musical appreciation, but there are other things that make a live show for me than people showing they know how to create music.
     
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    I'm not saying "you miss it" like "you're not sophisticated enough to get it."

    I'm saying that the most influential parts of his music are things you're ignoring. Like I said, if you don't like it, that's cool, but that's what Jimi was.
     
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    I just found that I can enjoy his music in spite of that. :xyzthumbs:
     
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    Rock and Roll was coined at first not as a mucical style, but a movement. An upsurge in popularity in Black Blues and White Country and Folk.

    As those styles merged, usually accompanied with a backbeat, the style was formed.

    Given this, if Dylan isn't rock and roll, particuarly post Highway 61, not sure what is.

    He might not be "Rock," which some people seem to look at as the harder, more bloated music that evolved from R&R in the late 60s and early 70s. You can draw a direct line between those bands and most generic hard rock/metal bands today. Tha's what gutter is talking about.

    But Dylan is Rock and Roll, though. No question. Same thing you are applying to Elvis, applies to Dylan.
     
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    I understand that.

    I can agree with him having released Rock and roll records, Dylan has dipped into as many styles as he's capable of.

    I guess I was speaking more about early Dylan, because that's the time period I've been talking about mostly.

    Regardless, I would consider him more rock and roll than most of the stuff on the radio these days.
     
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    I saw your reference to Hound Dog. I always thought it was funny that Elvis' breakout song was a cover of a blues song about a woman calling her man a dog.
     
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    Maybe a hint at another of Elvis' secret lives.
     

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