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Discussion in 'College Football Forum' started by magnus, Sep 1, 2006.

  1. Collin

    Collin soap and water

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    That would be an interesting discussion. See, for me while I'll always enjoy Barry Sanders' highlights, I'll also always remember how much trouble he had in short yardage and that Bobby Ross actually ended up pulling him for Tommy Vardell around the goalline. Emmitt was a little bigger, but I wonder how he would have fared behind something less than the second best run blocking line of all-time. Obviously Dunn also has been pulled for bigger backs in short yardage throughout his career.
    Fair enough. I thought he was a really good college RB, I just never thought of him as great.
    I've seen Carr too, and believe me when I say that I do like him, but he's not even in the same league as Calvin Johnson. CJ might be as ridiculously gifted as Peterson. He's much stronger and thicker than Carr, while being just as athletic and probably more explosive. Give me more feedback later in the year, though. I'd be curious to hear your take after seeing those two some more.
     
  2. LarryD

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    i don't put emmitt and barry sanders in the same category. i'd take emmitt 100 times out of 100 if i were starting an nfl team. give me 25 carries, 120 yards, 4 catches, 36 yards and 1 or 2 TDs -- guaranteed -- and i'm more than happy. emmitt never had to come out and he rarely had carries for negative yardage. he was the true every-down back. how much of that should be attributed to his line? dunno.

    yeah, i hope carr and CJ are the two first-team all-acc receivers. heck, first-team all-america.

    :)
     
  3. hasbeen99

    hasbeen99 Fighting the stereotype

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    Passes the eyeball test and pass protects like a man among boys. He picked up a delayed safety blitz against UNR Friday night that looked like the guy ran full speed into a brick wall. IMO, he needs to get a lot more dominant in drive blocking. Fresno State failed convert on several 3/2's which should be no trouble at all against a team like that.

    Great hands, very good body control, and decent vertical. I'll have to watch him more carefully to evaluate his route running.

    I was surprised to see him listed here. I don't remember him from last season, and he looked average from what I saw Friday night. I'll have to watch the game again and see what's supposed to be so special about him.
     
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    brady quinn no1?

    a.j. davis no99...remember when he was the second coming of deon sanders out of hs?
     
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    53. Anthony Waters, Outside Linebacker, Clemson, 6'3, 240



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  6. magnus

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    2007 Draft Preview: QBs

    By Colin Lindsay and Josh Buchanan

    Overview: A QB wasn't taken first overall at the 2006 draft for the first time since 2001, but the position could very well be back on top this coming April. Indeed, Notre Dame’s Brady Quinn is the early favorite to be the first player picked this year. Meanwhile Big 10 rivals Drew Stanton of Michigan State and Ohio State’s Troy Smith may also get some top 10 consideration. In fact, the very athletic Smith has the physical tools to be this year’s Vince Young, although pro scouts still have to answer the question whether the Buckeye star is in reality a great QB with extraordinary physical skills or just a great athlete playing QB. This year’s QB class also would appear to have plenty of depth with a large second-tier contingent including Jordan Palmer of UTEP, brother of the Bengals’ Carson, the #1 player selected at the 2003 draft; along with Kevin Kolb of Houston, Tyler Palko of Pitt, Jeff Rowe of Nevada, Lester Ricard of Tulane and John Beck of BYU.

    The QB field could get even stronger if any of several talented juniors decide to enter this year's draft. Brian Brohm of Louisville, for example, has the arm, size, smarts, and touch to be very much in the mix at the very top of the draft board, although he is coming off a torn ACL suffered late last season. And Brohm is just the tip of the iceberg of a talented junior class which also includes Kyle Wright of Miami, Jamarcus Russell of LSU, another Vince Young wannabe, Chad Henne of Michigan, John David Booty of Southern Cal, and Colt Brennan of Hawaii.

    This season's top small school quarterback does not appear to be as clear-cut as some years such as last year when Alabama State's Tarvaris Jackson was taken in the late second round, while Ingle Martin of Furman was a 5th round pick by Green Bay. This year's top QB prospect outside the ranks of D1A schools is Central Missouri State's Toby Korrodi, a pure pocket passer with good size and arm strength. Other top small school QBs to watch include Justin Rascati of James Madison, Villanova's Marvin Burroughs, Jon Grant of UC Davis, Tuskegee's Kevin Huff, Mississippi Valley State's Aries Nelson, Josh Stepp of Newberry, and NAIA All-American Jeff Smith of Georgetown of Kentucky, although none of these players would appear to be more than very late round prospects, or more likely undrafted free agent types. There are three other transfers to watch this season including Matt Gutierrez of Idaho State, who transferred over from Michigan for his final season, Montana State's Josh Swogger, who transferred from Washington State, and former New Mexico State QB Royal Gill, now at Southern Utah.

    Top 20 QB Prospects

    # Player H/W School CL

    1 Brady Quinn 6-4, 230 Notre Dame SR
    2 Brian Brohm 6-4, 225 Louisville JR
    3 Troy Smith 6-1, 215 Ohio State SR
    4 Drew Stanton 6-3, 230 Michigan State SR
    5 Sam Kellar* 6-4, 240 Nebraska SR
    6 LaMarcus Russell 6-5, 250 LSU JR
    7 Jordan Palmer 6-5, 235 UTEP SR
    8 Kevin Kolb 6-3, 225 Houston SR
    9 Jeff Rowe 6-5, 220 Nevada SR
    10 Tyler Palko 6-2, 220 Pittsburgh SR
    11 Lester Ricard 6-5, 225 Tulane SR
    12 John Beck 6-2, 212 BYU SR
    13 Trent Edwards 6-4, 220 Stanford SR
    14 Jared Zabransky 6-2, 205 Boise State SR
    15 Matt Gutierrez 6-4, 232 Idaho State SR
    16 Chris Leak 6-0, 210 Florida SR
    17 Josh Padrick 6-3, 210 Florida International SR
    18 Steve Moffett 6-3, 210 Central Florida SR
    19 Jerry Babb 6-3, 215 Louisiana-Lafayette SR
    20 Jeff Ballard 6-1, 210 TCU SR

    Sleeper file: Utah's Brett Ratliff, who has prototype size (6-4, 225) for a pocket passer, plus a live arm and decent mobility, seldom gets to play much as he is buried on the Utes’ depth chart behind junior QB Brian Johnson, however, all Ratliff did when he replaced an injured Johnson the final two games of the 2005 season was throw for over 600 yards and 8 TDs in just two games in which he completed 62% of his passes and also ran for another 100 yards plus. Meanwhile, James Pinkney of East Carolina has been one of the most improved players in the country the past couple of years; Pinkney has also been a good athlete who can run out of trouble, however, he has improved his accuracy and decision-making as he has matured. And the top sleeper QB outside the ranks of D1A schools could be Portland State's Sawyer Smith, a big (6-5, 230) pocket passer with good arm stength.

    Future file: Any pro team that misses out on one of this year's top QBs may not have to wait long to find their QB of the future as there is a bevy of fine young arms across the country including sophomores Drew Weatherford of Florida State, Rudy Carpenter of Arizona State, Ben Olsen of UCLA, Rocky Hinds of UNLV, and Chase Holbrook of New Mexico State. Pro scouts, though, are even more excited by this year's freshman class which includes redshirts Ryan Perrilloux of LSU, Mark Sanchez of USC, and Kerry Meier of Kansas, along with recruits Ted Tebow of Florida, Matthew Stafford of Georgia and Mitch Mustain of Arkansas. And for real future reference, California high schooler Jimmy Clausen, who has committed to Notre Dame, is a potential super star down the road.

    *Will sit out the season after transferring from Arizona State to Nebraska.
     
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    that QB list is crazy. How is Leak behind the guy from Idaho State? Leak is gonna have a 3,000 yard passing year I bet. Also, I didn't really know who Herschel Walker was or how good he was till I got here, but after seeing tons of tapes on him he was said to be the only RB at the time who could go from High School straight to the pros at the age of 18, as a freshman he put UGA on his back and almost single handedly won the national championship for them and he won 3 SEC titles, has the largest total for any running back in 3 years and Peterson proabably won't break that even with playing more games than Herschel did. He ran for 5,259 yards in 3 seasons. Adrian Peterson is a freak though. Oklahoma needs a QB bad.
     
  8. Collin

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    Because it's a list for NFL potential. Leak is short and doesn't have a cannon for an arm. I'd still take him in the 4th round or so because I like his poise and touch, but he is far from your ideal NFL prospect.
    Sounds a lot like Peterson, really. AP set the NCAA record for freshman rushing yards and obviously OU lost in the national championship game. Peterson probably isn't going to get Herschel's three year record because of his poor season last year with the bum ankle, but he'll come close. I agree that very few guys have ever seemed physically ready for the pros straight out of high school, but Walker and Peterson are probably both on the list.


    Anyway, Stewart Mandel pulled a Yaskinskas and used an Email I sent without crediting me. Oddly enough, he mentioned it in his mailbag where other people were cited, just not me. My point to him was that people are overlooking how the clock changes are going to affect statistical production, and specifically the race for the Heisman.
     
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    No, he was a top recruit and he will play in the NFL, But second coming of Deion??? Never heard that.


    As for Calvin Johnson I DO remember a HUGE catch. State was clinging to a 14-7 lead......3rd and about 7 for Tech. About States 20. State needs a stop!! Ball throws it behind Johnson and high and he reached back and caught it one handed while in the air.. First down......They score a couple of plays later to tie the game.
     
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    Freakshow Fuck you guys.

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