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The try to stump the great collin on a football question thread.

Discussion in 'Carolina Panthers' started by Go 4 two, Jan 15, 2009.

  1. TheGame08

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  2. Collin

    Collin soap and water

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    TheGame08:
    It happens. Just about the Panthers this season, I was wrong about Travelle Wharton being worse at guard than tackle (he was our one Pro Bowl worthy lineman in my opinion), Jordan Gross being a liability at left tackle (not great, but certainly adequate), and Thomas Davis becoming a dynamic playmaker at WLB (he had a lot more tackles but still isn't a disruptive force). Of course I was correct about far more things, but I've never been unwilling to admit my own mistakes.


    I treat people as they deserve to be treated. I don't insult people randomly, and the rare occasions when I attack someone undeservedly, I apologize to them for it. What you said about me was both stupid and insulting, therefore for you to expect a courteous response is unrealistic. The good news for you is that I don't hold grudges. I can be critical of someone in one thread and praise them in the next, because my reactions are always dependent upon the individual circumstances. I may be coarse and rude, but I am also unfailingly fair.
    I have quit my job and moved to help a sick family member.
    I have counciled friends dealing with depression, and at one point I regularly visited a friend who lived over an hour away to help him during his first couple of months in AA.
    Not that I know of, unless you count choosing not to murder people who turn without signalling.
    I would say so, but you'd have to ask them.
    I gave up on a future career in engineering because I didn't enjoy it. If I was concerned with making as much money as possible, I wouldn't be writing about fantasy sports.

    The point of all this is that you don't know me despite the fact that I've tried to explain my motives whenever anyone asks. You ignorantly assume that I am the way that I am because I'm unhappy or because I don't have other things in my life. That's particularly dumb because I have been upfront about the reason I am the way that I am. I am critical because I believe that standards matter, and for the record I do hold myself to the same standards. I am willing to judge other people because I am not scared to be judged by them. And I'm insulting because stupidity annoys me. I don't do it for fun, I do it in hopes that people will stop posting stupid things and therefore stop annoying me. Meanwhile people saying nice things to your face is simply superficial, especially when many people will say one thing publicly and one thing behind your back. In contrast, no one needs to wonder what I think about them.

    All this stuff has limited significance, however. There are some people on this board who I have helped with various things and others who I've offered to help. They know about it and I don't need to share it with you or anyone else. But stop making the foolish assumption that me being a dick to someone who says something stupid means that I am a miserable person. It just means that I'm not going to hide my annoyance the way that most people do.
     
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  3. Bob Johnson

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    Bertrand Russell:
    Collective fear stimulates herd instinct, and tends to produce ferocity toward those who are not regarded as members of the herd.


    Eleanor Holmes Norton:
    The only way to make sure people you agree with can speak is to support the rights of people you don't agree with.


    Eric Hoffer:
    The capacity for getting along with our neighbor depends to a large extent on the capacity for getting along with ourselves. The self-respecting individual will try to be as tolerant of his neighbor's shortcomings as he is of his own.


    Eric Hoffer:
    The remarkable thing is that we really love our neighbor as ourselves: we do unto others as we do unto ourselves. We hate others when we hate ourselves. We are tolerant toward others when we tolerate ourselves. We forgive others when we forgive ourselves. We are prone to sacrifice others when we are ready to sacrifice ourselves.


    Evelyn Beatrice Hall:
    I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. (paraphrasing Voltaire)


    George Washington Carver:
    How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak and the strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these.


    Jerome Nathanson:
    The price of the democratic way of life is a growing appreciation of people's differences, not merely as tolerable, but as the essence of a rich and rewarding human experience.


    John Godfrey Saxe:

    So oft in theologic wars,
    The disputants, I ween,
    Rail on in utter ignorance
    Of what each other mean,
    And prate about an Elephant
    Not one of them has seen!

    1887: referring to the Buddhist fable of the Blind Sages and the Elephant, found in the Udana, chapter 6, section 4


    Mohandas K. Gandhi:
    It is the duty of every cultured man or woman to read sympathetically the scriptures of the world. If we are to respect others' religions as we would have them respect our own, a friendly study of the world's religions is a sacred duty.


    Paul McCartney:
    I used to think anyone doing anything weird was weird. Now I know that it is the people that call others weird that are weird.


    Paul Ricoeur :
    If it is true that there is always more than one way of construing a text, it is not true that all interpretations are equal.


    Ralph W. Sockman:
    The test of courage comes when we are in the minority. The test of tolerance comes when we are in the majority.


    Rene Dubos:

    Human diversity makes tolerance more than a virtue; it makes it a requirement for survival.
    Celebrations of Life, 1981


    Robert F. Kennedy:
    Ultimately, America's answer to the intolerant man is diversity, the very diversity which our heritage of religious freedom has inspired.


    Robert Louis Stevenson:
    There is so much good in the worst of us, and so much bad in the best of us, that it behooves all of us not to talk about the rest of us.


    Susan B. Anthony:

    I tell them I have worked 40 years to make the W.S. platform broad enough for Atheists and Agnostics to stand upon, and now if need be I will fight the next 40 to keep it Catholic enough to permit the straightest Orthodox religionist to speak or pray and count her beads upon.
    on the Women's Suffrage platform


    Thomas Jefferson:
    Difference of opinion is helpful in religion.


    Thomas Wentworth Higginson:
    All ... religions show the same disparity between belief and practice, and each is safe till it tries to exclude the rest. Test each sect by its best or its worst as you will, by its high-water mark of virtue or its low-water mark of vice. But falsehood begins when you measure the ebb of any other religion against the flood-tide of your own. There is a noble and a base side to every history.


    Voltaire:
    Monsieur l'abbe, I detest what you write, but I would give my life to make it possible for you to continue to write.


    Voltaire:
    What is tolerance? -- it is the consequence of humanity. We are all formed of frailty and error; let us pardon reciprocally each other's folly -- that is the first law of nature.


    Voltaire:
    Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so too.
     
  4. Collin

    Collin soap and water

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    "Live and let live is a philosophy of cooperative cowardice" - Collin.
     
  5. presidence99

    presidence99 This MARRIAGE?

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  6. magnus

    magnus Chump-proof

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    "sometimes pretending to be doing something for the greater good is just a poor excuse for justifying doing and acting any way you want" - mags
     
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    gridfaniker Loathsome

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  8. LarryD

    LarryD autodidact polymath

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    do you think it's working? i mean, you've been doing it for years now and you don't seem to be any less annoyed.
     
  9. SilverSurfer

    SilverSurfer Son of Anarchy

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    LMAO.
     
  10. Collin

    Collin soap and water

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    Yes, it does work. We go through this same spiel every few months, and during one of my extended absences the Panthers forum was overrun with morons, leading a couple of posters to post publicly that they had thought I was crazy for saying that insults make a difference but they now believed me. Morons aren't dissuaded from posting here because of intimidation about someone else making an intelligent post. There's a reason why TBR hasn't degenerated into Charlotte.com or the Huddle, and for that matter, it's not just me. I'm the most vocal and arguably the most vicious, but there are others who also bash people who post idiocy, including magnus when he's not wanting to be seen as the Carolina Buddha. I still get plenty annoyed on here, but my head would explode in about ten minutes from reading those other two boards.
     

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