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The 'gay vs the Bible' debate......

Discussion in 'Religion & Spirituality Forum' started by Fred, Mar 13, 2006.

  1. kshead

    kshead What's the spread?

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    It might just be that a lot more people lie than engage in homosexual acts too.

    FWIW....You could probably get the gamblers out if you set some kinda odds for the march. Or maybe have the march end at a football game or casino.
     
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    I was gonna go with coveting. I covet a boatload more than I lie.
     
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    If it was only forbidden in the old testament you might have a case. Certainly portions of the old testament law were ceremonial in nature and not intended for anyone other than jews who lived before Christ. Homosexuality however is addressed in the new testament and condemned.
     
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    I think that I have asked you before for this list of exactly which portions fit into this category. I don't think I've gotten it though.
     
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    I've never understood it when people say that parts of the NT erase part of the OT.

    Who decides this? Then why was it left in the OT? Was there a memo sent out that I missed? Do preachers/religions make this shit up as they come to it?

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    You are going to have to get a ruling from some of the people with more knowledge of the Bible than I have, but I think that some parts of the NT do erase - overrule or replace would probably be better words - parts of the OT. But I think that Jesus was pretty specific about teh things that he was replacing, and I don't think that homosexuality was one of them.

    And as for the memo, yes. We remove it from all households with "free toasters."
     
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    I am not qualified to give you a comprehensive list. Paul talks about this in the new testament and explains how christians are not boud by the ceremonial law but by the moral law. I can't really do the argument justice but it is a doctrine held by most christians.

    Basically in the old testament the jews were bound to the law and they had to make sacrifices each year to atone for their sins. The priests would offer the sacrifice and all that. Christ paid the sin debt and made all that no longer necessary. Part of the old law therefore became no longer necessary.
     
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    The Westminster Confession of Faith in 1646 dealt with this issue. There may be other examples older than that but you have to remember that if you go back much farther than that there was not much knowledge of the bible or doctrine because most people just trusted the catholic priests to instruct them. Protestantism started the waive of people studying the bible for themselves. It also helped that at the same time literacy and the printing press made it more available.
     

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