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That was a Catch

Discussion in 'Carolina Panthers' started by Laveranues Coleslaw, Nov 27, 2005.

  1. Laveranues Coleslaw

    Laveranues Coleslaw Junior Member

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    I got fucking robbed :thud:
     
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    coleslaw :drool:
     
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    Coach Micool Let's Go Brandon!

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    I think it was a catch.

    He got two feet down in the EZ in controll of the ball before he hit the ground (tackled after the TD imo). The game doods (stoops at espn) say he must control the ball after he hits the ground. But how is that if he's in the ez and gets two feet down? Everything after that is moot. If that's not the case, then defenses should start tackling in the ez and make every player hit the ground in hopes of a loose ball result.

    Shockey comes down with the ball, barely gets the second foot down before the ball comes out, and it's a TD?
     
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    Shockey & Toomer plays:

    LEAGUE ADMITS ZEBRA SCREW-UPS

    It's safe to assume that referee Larry Nemmers won't be working the Super Bowl this year.

    According to The Associated Press, the NFL surprisingly has admitted that Nemmers screwed up not one but two touchdown reviews in Sunday's Giants-Seahawks game, giving the G-men not one but two touchdowns that they didn't deserve.

    In both instances, Nemmers concluded that there wasn't sufficiently indisputable visual evidence to overturn the calls made on the field -- that Jeremy Shockey late in the first half and Amani Toomer late in the game had secured receptions in the end zone.

    Seattle coach Mike Holmgren, a member of the eight-person Competition Committee, addressed the topic on Monday: "I had a conversation with the league, and there were mistakes that were made, which we felt at the time."

    Interestingly, the Big Show has been cited as the source of explanations regarding the very high standard of proof required to overturn the live call via video review. To loosely paraphrase, we recall someone (we think it was Chris Mortensen) explaining that Holmgren believes that "indisputable" means 50 drunks in a bar will unanimously agree that the call should be overturned.

    And we've previously railed on the refs for failing to keep the spirit of the replay rule in mind when reviewing calls. Instead, too many of them have used video as a tool for making the call from scratch. Several weeks back, a touchdown catch that could have changed the Lions' abysmal season was overturned based upon the cross-referencing of two separate video angles, neither of which clearly showed that ball wasn't caught.

    In this specific case, the evidence was indisputable, and the calls should have been overturned. Toomer's left foot clearly had rolled into the sideline border before his second foot hit in bounds, and Shockey clearly didn't have the ball long enough before he got jacked up in the end zone.

    With all that said, we can't help but wonder whether the NFL would have been so forthcoming about Nemmers' blunder if Giants kicker Jay Feely had made any of those three missed kicks, which would have delivered an undeserved victory to the boys in blue. Our guess is that, if the bad calls had affected the outcome of the game, nothing would have been said.

    And that, in turn, will make us forever skeptical when the NFL says nothing at all regarding a possibly bad call that did in fact determine the winner and the loser.

    PFT
     

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