TBR Vote for the Heisman

Well we have the first sophmore winner in Tebow. I am not a Gator fan but damn Tebow seems like a pretty decent guy

 

"Any freakin' moron knows Percy Harvin! What kind of idiot gets on a message board and asks such a stupid ass question. I can't believe you would show just how small of an intellectual midget you are by asking the name of one other Florida Gator offensive player. Now that I named another Florida Gator offensive player you should just admit that I whipped your ass in an argument and PROVED beyond a shadow of a doubt that you don't know what you are talking about. Don't even respond because it won't matter."

--Colon responding to Colon

 

Maybe I'm wrong, but while I know who Harvin is, I doubt that he's common knowledge to the average college football fan. He certainly doesn't have as much of a profile as Felix Jones, and it's pretty clear that Tebow had a supporting no better than equal and possibly worse than McFadden's. And speaking of Harvin, the fact that a wide receiver is that team's second leading rusher behind Tebow reinforces my point about them having no legitimate running game.

 

Yes, you are.

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If you don't know who Harvin is, then you aren't a college football fan.

Says who, you? College Game Day shows a highlight reel of him everytime they talk about the SEC, not counting when they talk about Florida.

Didn't Florida when the national championship last year? And didn't some of those players return? And didn't a lot of people expect Florida to contend for the championship again? You think Tebow did that by himself? What a joke.

Now you are just making excuses because I kicked your ass about this. I know you aren't stupid enough to think all the things you said. I've proved yet again that Florida isn't one dimensional, yet you are so stupid you continue to argue about it. Give it up, admit I kicked your intellectually challenged ass, and move on.

 

It's certainly possible that I underestimated his Q-rating, but it's unquestionable that you're hilariously overstating his prominence because you're still extremely bitter about being humiliated in the BCS argument.

They lost a lot of guys from last season's team, including their leading rusher, leading receiver, and several starters on the offensive line. And Florida was highly ranked, but I don't remember any magazines picking them to repeat as champs. In any case, the Heisman coverage last night largely parroted what I said about Tebow carrying Florida's offense without much help.

About what?

I realize that you're attempting to be clever, but you're letting your anger and bitterness lead you down the road of stupidity yet again. Don't go arguing that Florida isn't one-dimensional, because otherwise you're going to end up looking like a fool once more.

 

Let's take a look at the stats why don't we...since you seem to like numbers and that is what you say will prove something right...

Rushing
Tebow 836 yds (alot for a QB I agree), on 194 carries 4.3 ypc
Harvin 599 on 70 carries, 8.6 yds per carry...pretty impressive for an unknown
Moore 571 yds on 102 carries, 5.6 yds a carry (pretty impressive avg there for an insignificant player wouldn't you say?)
Not a single player on the team avg under 3 yds a carry...

Hmmm, makes me believe they had a hell of an offensive line to get that many yards. Or did Tebow block too? Sounds like maybe an offensive line that lost only one starter from last season?!

Now, receiving...
Caldwell 52 for 721
Harvin 50 for 781
Murphy 36 for 544

Those are some pretty impressive numbers. Especially since this team is so one dimensional.

Face it, Tebow was on a better team. He has better numbers, he wins the Heisman. Which is more impressive? I think they both are, however, I believe McFadden's numbers were more impressive because he had less of a supporting cast. But Tebow's numbers are unheard of for a QB, so I don't see as either one would have been a bad choice.

HOWEVER, you chose to say Florida was one dimensional. Would you like to say you are wrong now?

And yeah, I'm so hurt about that BCS "whipping" you gave me. It's turned out just like this one. You spout of about things and claim you've proven something, so here you go. Have at it old great one!

 

And that's still nonsense. Arkansas' offensive line is one of the best run blocking lines in the country, and Felix Jones puts enormous pressure on defenses as well. McFadden is amazing and maybe he should have won last year, but the argument that he had less of a supporting cast than Tebow is nonsense. Tebow had a historic year in large part because Florida needed him to.

Not at all, largely because I'm correct and you're the one that's wrong. Even Urban Meyer has talked about Florida's weakness at running back and their lack of a conventional running game. That's why they're forced to rely on Tebow and Harvin so heavily, because they don't have the ability to consistently succeed with a conventional running game. Once again, a QB leads the team in rushing and a WR is second. That's evidence of being one dimensional.

You follow me around in threads, ask personal details, and generally display an astonish amount of bitterness. You can deny it all you want, but it's clear that you're angry and hurt because I humiliated you in that argument. But again, it's not my fault that you're stupid. Blame God if you want to, or your parents, but not me.

 

Sorry BV, I just saw this. About the comparison with Bobby Douglas, Wow--you're going back aways. Other than being big, white, lefthanded, I think the comparisons stop there. Douglas was one-dimensional and had a lug-head for a brain. He had no peripheral vision and would lock on to a receiver immediately. Douglas would not have a chance against today's sophisticated defenses.

I think the better comparision is with Steve Young...and I believe he is much further along than Young was when he started pro ball with the Tampa Bay Bandits or whatever the heck that team was from the WFL---or for that matter when he was with the Buccaneers.

Believe me, I was not a Tebow fan last year, but the kid showed alot of QB skills this season and you know he is just going to get better. I couldn't believe how accurate he is with the deep ball, yet proved he had the touch pass as well.

As much as I wanted McFadden to win, Tebow deserved it.

One of the things that people miss not seeing McFadden in person is how
"fluid" his running style is. The kid just glides across the field like a skater on ice.

 

I have no problem with Tebow winning it. His numbers are remarkable.

The Young comparison is interesting. Not sure I agree but I see why you could view him that way.