Smitty wants to play till 2015 or 2016

The Orwellian Counter: to lie and accuse your opponent of having the exact weakness that your own side really has in order to throw him off and win the argument.

 

People forget that the Seattle OL was simply humiliating the panthers all game long.

This. He did enough when we had good years talent/injury wise and when the schedule was soft.

The team did well to get what they got out of Jake. A few more breaks and he's Eli Manning a few less and he's one the McCowns

 

CelticCat is the one who started this pointless argument, and he's almost always the one who starts conflict between us. He's also the one who didn't understand what "mediocre" meant (i.e. thinking Kyle Boller was somehow good enough to be "mediocre").

 

This gets even more funnier with every post.

I actually thought you were trying to be funny by saying that about Boller which is why I LOL'd.

This thread was actually pretty light and friendly until you decided to go all dictionary. You had challenged y2b and I then said it was rather harsh to call some quality QB's mediocre and I listed the QB's they played under for the majority to make a point. Then you started acting like a teenage girl by keeping to your blanket "mediocre" statement, ignored the actual discussion and tried to flip it into a Jake/elite argument and by denying that 12th in rating is actually above average in a league of 32 teams. In fact, it was only after his Tommy John that his rating ever fell below 16th, what most sane individuals would consider the average.

Nobody would ever suggest Jake was a game manager who was great at protecting the ball. We all know he was a gunslinger that had a lot of faith in Smitty and Moose to go up and get it. We're all aware of the boneheaded passes he would also tend to throw every so often. So while you want to harp on those some of us remember the good, like his 25 career game winning drives and 19 career comeback wins and his average yards per pass play and playoff winning percentage which do put him at or near the top. Maybe if we had used the TE's more he could have been more efficient.

Bollers record in Baltimore was about as classic a definition of average you could get. 20 wins to 22 loses with 45 TD's and 44 Ints. Yeah, I know his QB rating was balls so don't even go there.

I don't even know what to say about your Father Lavery Latin class and opinions on the validity of which dictionary to use. But its neat of you continue to ignore definition 2 of the source you either inadequately provided or conveniently omitted and still don't have the stones to address the initial question I tried to ask you.

Other than this:



Ugh, flashbacks of 3 years of Latin.

 

Kerry Collins has more regular season wins and only one less playoff win than Jake. They've both been to a Super Bowl. I believe he has one more pro bowl than Jake. We actually have two former QB's in the top 50 in all-time career victories and neither one of them is Jake Delhomme.

Just some perspective.

 

And Beuerlein could have far and away been the best thing we've ever had if Seifert didn't run that shit into the ground. I'd still take him over Jake even though that's not popular. Cam will eventually make us forget about both of them forever, assuming we can keep him around. He'll either be the all-time fan favorite of the most hated player ever.

 

Yeah, but he played in like 100 more games. Who's the other one? Gotta be Testy.

 

I'm old fashioned but I think longevity matters. Jake was only a full time starter for six years. For a running back that would be impressive. He couldn't even clearly beat out Rodney Peete and Weinke for the starting job here, it had to come to Fox pushing the panic button because he was getting his ass kicked by his former assistant on his own field.

 

For sure, its why those WR's are where they are on the list.

If Peete hadn't been thrown off his game by his wife singing in that hot outfit we probably never see Jake at all. Foxy was pretty stubborn.