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Sirius was throwin the hate today

Discussion in 'Carolina Panthers' started by meatpile, Sep 15, 2010.

  1. Elric

    Elric Citizen of the Empire

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    Getting a reliable 2nd receiver has been the biggest failing the team has had. And Smitty isn't getting any younger either. If something happens to him we are well and truly screwed. Stokely is still out there as far as I know. I know he can catch a football and run the correct routes. LaFell has to step it up cuz we know Jarrett is a bust
     
  2. Black&Blue

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    Go young FOR WHAT!? Why? Just for the hell of it?

    Even since that playoff loss, it's just been one bizarre thing after another for this team.
     
  3. SilverSurfer

    SilverSurfer Son of Anarchy

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    I'm still thinking we're gonna beat Tampa this Sunday - sure hope so, cause that's the only pair of tix I kept this season.........
     
  4. Abusive

    Abusive Fuck yo blanket

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    Our passing game was about as good/shitty as the Giants'. Only problem was our secondary broke down 3-4 times deep, they got a ridiculous reversal on an incompletion that kept a scoring drive going, and they completely fucked up (officials) the spot on a 4th and 1 stop by Conner. We were not afforded these luxuries.

    One show on Sirius NFL--Kirwan's show--is credible, because PK knows how to talk rationally about the game without playing off the sensationalism script (ESPN, etc). He doesn't always pick Carolina, and I could give a shit, but the "broad, general" analysis given by some of these meatheads comes from a lack of granular study and understanding of each team's problems.

    For example: I know the Bengals were raped by New England. I didn't watch the game. By the score, I (if I were a meathead) would say, "Well, that highly-touted Bengals defense is already showing cracks, giving up 38 to the Patriots".

    Dig a little deeper, and you see that 14 of those 38 were courtesy of a defensive and special teams TD. Did Natti play well defensively? No. But they allowed 24 points, which should have been low enough to allow Natti to take that game to OT, or win it.

    We have a long way to go, but Moore had some strong moments in the first half. The TD to Smith was promising. Some of the conversions were also promising--keep in mind, we dominated NY on 3rd downs. We ended up at 47%, which is not horrible.

    The meathead media focuses on high-level items, typically because they either lack the time or effort to dig into the game deeper.

    We would likely have lost the Giants game with Eli under center for us, because the picks in the end zone don't change the fact that:

    1. Davidson's red-zone playcalling was very poor.
    2. Carolina's secondary (Marshall) looked like a pop-warner standout.
    3. The offensive line did not pass protect.
    4. The Giants tackled better than I have seen of them in many games.

    I don't know much about Tampa, other than they mouth-fucked Jake again, and they did not do much offensively in week one. Which is why going 1-1 is no concern of mine.

    My biggest concern is making sure that Meeks' is able to regain that swagger, keep his EXPERIENCED corners from blowing assignments, and continue to eliminate the opposing run. If that happens, Moore can throw 10 TD's all year and we can go 9-7.
     
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  5. meatpile

    meatpile 7-9

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    I think there's some truth to what fox says - you're not as good as you think and you're not as bad as you think.

    16 teams are 0-1. Some of them suck, some don't.

    Not that I'm not concerned, but damn.

    Fox's interview was interesting - 4 turnovers in the second half. 2 INT deep in red zone. That should be correctable, and that's not the receivers' fault, either.
     
  6. DaveW

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    dont hold your breath. that fucking dickhead hasnt opened his ********** in 15 years.

    gee, jerry, thanks for standing up for your other owners and fucking us fans.
     
  7. Black&Blue

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    One possible solution is to stick to what we're good at. We have two outstanding running backs, and it appears as though we might have another on the rise in Goodson. The talk about working on the passing game in the preseason is nice, but you can't change your stripes. It's like the hot cheerleader who says she's going to spend her summer trying to study calculus.

    Also, it might help if Fox spent less time on facebook. He doesn't seem to be taking his job very seriously this year.
     
  8. Abusive

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    There are a ton of moving parts over at Mint Street. You have a new President of Football Operations, who I actually like and respect. You have a coach who has no contract in 2011, and will probably not return. The lockout issue does impact spending, but you have to know that Richardson is a much different owner than, say, Woody Johnson or Steve Bisciotti. We are so much like the Steelers, or try to be, it's kinda dirty. Here's the list of offseason additions from their end:

    QB Byron Leftwich
    WR Antwaan Randle El
    WR Arnaz Battle
    OT Flozell Adams
    OT Jonathan Scott
    ILB Larry Foote
    CB Bryant McFadden
    S Will Allen

    Flozell, I assume, started. McFadden played very well. Other than that, nobody else has done shit.

    Now, here's how Carolina's rolled on a budget:
    DT Ed Johnson
    OLB Jamar Williams
    CB Marcus Hudson
    S Aaron Francisco
    ST Wallace Wright

    Johnson starts now. Hudson is, potentially, our best ST defender. Wright, we all agreed would do good things for us prior to the injury. Williams does ST duty, and hasn't done much. And Francisco got hurt.

    Now, should we have (and could we have) landed Boldin, Housh, Owens.
    Yes. Without question. It's inexcusable to not have a VETERAN #2 who knows where to line up, how to get open, and how to make consistent plays. That's the only area in which I fault their strategy.

    We owe some big names some big bucks in the next 12 months, including Sir Fox, if we wish. Losses like Sunday's make you wonder if Fox is a great coach, or just a pimp who everyone likes. If the latter is the case, fuck it--go young and cheap there too.

    Richardson is arguably the most influential owner in terms of the pending labor agreement/disagreement, so it never shocked me that they did what they did. And now, Sir Fox--from week 1--has to coach his team the way he did after half his team went to IR, mid-2004. It's a shame, but it's what happened.

    You (B&B), or someone else, did make a good point about Moore--playing from behind. He's never done it, or at least, done it effectively. Which is why having a full deck on the OL and running the ball for 150-200 per game will be the only chance this team has at a good year.
     
  9. docnolz

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    :agreed:
     
  10. CosmikCatNip

    CosmikCatNip of myth and lore

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    i'm not as knowledge about tampa as in the past since they closed their board down in the spring. what i do know is they are more offensively challenged than we are as a whole, but there is more of a balance. i guess that's either good or bad, in that while they aren't overly effective at the run or the pass, they aren't a one dimensional horror show either.

    they went back to the tampa 2 mid season last year, and got better, mostly because that's the personnel they've had there forever. i'm interested to see how our run game works against their new line, since we've made a pretty good living pushing that garbage around for several years now. last year we won the first game with 16 run plays and 1 smoke to smith on the final td drive. not so sure we can do something like that at this point.

    we deserve whatever criticism is out there. we did next to nothing this year, and there were some quality pieces on the market. there's no argument to support why we didn't make a play for boldin. even more so when you consider we traded a 2nd for a project that may not even crack the gameday roster this year.
     

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