should palmiero be in the hall of fame?

granted...i probably should have taken out a few things of that passage...i simply did a cut and paste. i agree that sac flies, grand slams, and most homeruns by any player with the last name that starts with 'p' does not make you hall of fame material. but the others simply put him in the 'elite' of the players of his time in the big leagues. look at them...and you simply mention that they are useful? in the last 10 years, he is in the top 5 in hits, rbi, and HR. plus he won three gold gloves.

you want to compare him to mark grace? are you kidding me? with the exception of BA, his numbers pale in comparison to Raffy.

Palmiero .292 BA, 527 2b, 499 hr, 1594 rbi,.523 slg
Grace .304 BA , 509 2b, 171 hr, 1139 rbi, .444 slg

wanna look at some other first basemen that are already there?

Orlando Cepeda (inducted in 1999)
.297 ba, 417 2b, 379 hr, 1365 rbi
Harmon Killebrew (1984)
.256 ba, 290 2b, 573hr, 1584 rbi,
Tony Perez (2000)
.279, 505 2b, 379 hr, 1652 rbi
Willie McCovey (1986)
.270, 353 2b, 521 hr, 1555 rbi
Eddie Murray (2003)
.287, 560 2b, 504 hr, 1917 rbi

Raffy's numbers are right there with these guys. you may want to argue that Cepeda and Perez are not HOF material, and i won't give you much of an arguement there. but only one of these guys had the luxury of getting in via the veteran's committee (Cepeda) the rest were voted in...and no one will argue with Killebrew, McCovey, and Murray belong there.

 

I still don't think that he should be in the hall, but this is pretty freaking impressive.

From Gammons' Diamond Notes

What truly makes Rafael Palmeiro special is that he has been there, playing 97 percent of his team's games for 17 years. In that same mold? Garrett Anderson. "I believe reliability is extremely important," said the Angels' star left fielder. "I want to be out there, even if I don't feel well. The opposition doesn't know it."

 

:xyzthumbs...he will be in...and deservedly so. The man can play the game and consistently. Probably the most underrated player of his time. If only he played for the Yankees...we wouldn't be having this discussion.

 

Well said Braves :applause:

After reading this thread, I think I need to bump him to my Most Underrated Players Thread. He is easily deserving of the HOF.
As far as being the best player on his team. Not such an easy task when you're playing around some guy named Ripken and a kid named Gonzalez.