should palmiero be in the hall of fame?

38 homers for however many straight seasons, 100 RBIs, too. he'll hit at least 500 homers.

but he's never been an all-star starter, never played in a world series and has never led the league in HRs.

i dunno.

 

I wouldn't vote for him, like you say he's not a regular all-star and no rings.....plus 500 homers will seem like nothing in 5 or so years.

 

To belong in the Hall of Fame, in my mind, there needs to be a period in history where you were the single greatest player. Palmeiro never won an MVP, and was consistently solid but never led the league in most categories. I don't think he belongs.

But I will say this: If there's any doubt to a guy's Hall of Fame credientials, he probably won't get in. Certainly not right away. Baseball is the only sport that is extremely selective in who gets in and who does not...which causes problems in cases like Bert Blyleven and Jack Morris but will save the Hall of Fame from marginal players like Palmeiro and hopefully Fred McGriff. I'm a proponent that Cooperstown is a place for baseball history. A place for people to go to learn about great players from the days of old...guys like Napoleon Lajoie, Charlie Gehringer, Frank Chance....great players the baseball world would forget if not for the Hall of Fame. Cluttering it with semi-superstars just takes away from those who are already there.

 

I totally agree ksl

 

Is this the last year for him? If not then I think it will depend on how much longer he plays and the numbers he can't put forth. I compared his numbers to Bonds who is the same age and they just didn't seem close enough to even compare.

I really think for a player to make the Hall in todays time, they have to put up some type of numbers that will make people remember whether it's offense, defense or pitching.

Palmeiro has put up some very nice numbers, but when somebody mentions his name to me, I am like "so what".

 

To belong in the Hall of Fame, in my mind, there needs to be a period in history where you were the single greatest player.

if this were the case, there would be about 20 guys in the hall of fame. How long would a player have to be the single greatest player? 1 year? 5 years?


500 and he is in. There is only 17 or 18 players with 500 homeruns. Think about the 1000's of players who have been in the majors. To be able to last in the Majors long enough to hit 500 is worthy of hall of fame consideration on it's own. you have to average around 33 homeruns a year for 15 years to hit 500. Palemerio should be in with no problems.

 

I compared his numbers to Bonds who is the same age and they just didn't seem close enough to even compare


if you try to compare anyone to Bonds and they wont seem close enough to compare.

 

NO. 500 homers in this Homer Happy era is not good enough. By the way, here is a great site to compare stats.

Baseball Reference

 

That's my point, there has to be a mark or standard to measure against, and to me that standard needs to be evaluated each year.

So in the next 10-15 years you will see a lot more players than ever before hit the 500 homer mark, so all of them should be in based on the one stat?


So who should we compare his numbers to? Dave Kingman, Jim Rice, Bob Horner, I am sure we can find somebody that his numbers will just blow away so that he needs to be in the Hall.

 

Damn nice site! Thanks for the link.