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Sexually excited about geometry (or getting off on a tangent)

Discussion in 'Religion & Spirituality Forum' started by Galethog, Mar 24, 2006.

Can you be an active gay and still be saved?

Poll closed Mar 29, 2006.
  1. Yes, Jesus forgives all sins.

    10 vote(s)
    90.9%
  2. No, repentence requires abstaining from gay sex.

    1 vote(s)
    9.1%
  1. Southern_Yankee

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    make sure to have illicit sex with an "already married woman" before you go :woohoo:
     
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    I used to do that frequently with her until we had a baby...............
     
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    hasbeen99 Fighting the stereotype

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    I checked my Strong's Hebrew and Greek dictionary over the weekend and saw the mention of incest, but only as an example, not as an exclusive definition.
     
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    hasbeen99 Fighting the stereotype

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    I was just asking if you had a reference, because the only one I'd seen didn't specify incest. Besides, the way you presented it was kind of nebulous anyway, IMO. I didn't mean it as a rebuttal, I was geniuinely curious. FWIW, I looked in one of my references at home and did see incest included as an example for porneia.

    I don't see a whole lot of ways that particular verse can be exposited. I can see it being called into question because of the lack of repetition in the other Gospels, but I don't see omission as a contradition. That's just my view, though.

    What would marrying your girlfriend as non-believers matter? Marrying a non-Christian doesn't illegitimize the marriage at all. :thinking:
     
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    The general idea Jesus was putting out there is, "Don't get divorced." Remember, there is no "law" in the age of grace. I think when we start looking for boundaries in the New Testament, things start to get confusing. Jesus is the example all believers are supposed to follow, either literally or by His character. It became little more than a ridiculed cliche a few years back, but Christians should still be using "What would Jesus do?" as the plumb line for daily living. That's what it means to be a disciple.

    Getting back on topic...

    Society proved then, as it does now, that when a bunch of loopholes and options are given for divorce, marriage itself loses it's strength. Marriage isn't just about the two people involved experiencing the greatest human relationship possible, it's about living out an example of selfless love, dedication, commitment, and forgiveness. Divorce almost always undermines those things, obviously on the individual's level, but also on the corporate level. Why is it usually so devastating to see our grandparents getting divorced? Because people who persevere in a marriage for a few decades inspire hope to all those who know them. It's something beyond even what the couple feel or are even aware of. It's not just about them.
     
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    I kinda got off on a tangent. LOL. I assume that the laws against gay marriage is based on religion. What I was saying is that I can get married even when it violates religious doctrine, but gays can't.
     
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    Yeah, that's a double-standard. Seriously.
     
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    To some degree I suppose it is a double standard, however, there is some basis in the bible for allowing those who have been divorced to remarry. I can think of none that allows for members of the same sex to marry.
     

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