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setback for atheists

Discussion in 'Religion & Spirituality Forum' started by gridfaniker, Mar 24, 2004.

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  1. Mar 29, 2004 at 8:16 PM #31
    vpkozel

    vpkozel Professional Calvinballer

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    You have a right not to have a State religion (or lack thereof). You have a right not to be denied any position because of your religion (or lack thereof). You have a right to worship freely - as long as your worship does not impose on someone else's rights (e.g., human sacrifice). You have a right to never be persecuted for your religious beliefs (or lack thereof).

    And no one is looking to limit YOUR rights - what they are looking to do is interpret the Constitution in the spirit that it was written.
     
  2. Mar 29, 2004 at 8:20 PM #32
    Reznor

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    would wasting your time on something you don't believe in not be considered an imposition though? I'm on the fence on this one, just playing devil's advocate here. I really see no reason to change the pledge, but it should be voluntary in schools.
     
  3. Mar 30, 2004 at 12:02 AM #33
    Superfluous_Nut

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    exactly. and they already changed the pledge -- "under god" was added in the 50's (i think).
     
  4. Mar 30, 2004 at 12:04 AM #34
    Superfluous_Nut

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    or lack thereof? i'm not sure what you mean by that.
     
  5. Mar 30, 2004 at 7:08 AM #35
    vpkozel

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    That having religious void is in fact "respecting an establishment of religion"
     
  6. Mar 30, 2004 at 7:58 AM #36
    El Bastardo

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    Anybody know what the pledge said before they changed it?
     
  7. Mar 30, 2004 at 8:14 AM #37
    vpkozel

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    I think they just added the "under God" part.
     
  8. Mar 30, 2004 at 8:58 AM #38
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    Yep. Wasn't "In God We Trust" added to the currency around 1900 or so? What caused this? I understand the "Under God" was in reaction to godless communism but never understood the context of the addition to currency.
     
  9. Mar 30, 2004 at 9:24 AM #39
    vpkozel

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    Ask and ye shall receive......

    Wait, does this make me a god? Not God with a big G mind, you just one with a little g. I think it does. Please note and refer to me as appropriate.

    http://www.ustreas.gov/education/fact-sheets/currency/in-god-we-trust.html
     
  10. Mar 30, 2004 at 9:29 AM #40
    gridfaniker

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    It is. The kids have the option of reciting it.
     
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