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Scientist: Jesus may have walked on ice

Discussion in 'Religion & Spirituality Forum' started by Galethog, Apr 5, 2006.

  1. Galethog

    Galethog Arrogant SumBitch

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    http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/news/breaking_news/14271431.htm


    Scientist: Jesus may have walked on ice



    TALLAHASSEE, Fla. - Jesus walked on water, according to the Bible, but a Florida State University professor says he may have actually walked on a hard-to-see patch of ice.
    Doron Nof, a professor of oceanography, said a rare combination of water and atmospheric conditions in the Sea of Galilee 2000 years ago may offer a scientific explanation for one of the miracles recounted in the Bible.
    Nof said a patch of ice floating in the Sea of Galilee - which is actually a freshwater lake - would have been difficult to distinguish from unfrozen water surrounding it.
    "I'm not trying to provide any information that has to do with theology here," Nof said in an interview Wednesday. "All we've thought is about the natural process. What theologians or anybody else does with that, it's their business, so to speak."
    According to the New Testament books of Matthew, Mark and John, Jesus' disciples were out on the Galilee at night when a storm came up. Jesus walked to the terrified men, who thought he was a ghost, according to the accounts.
    Darrell Bock, a professor of New Testament studies at the Dallas Theological Seminary, lightheartedly dismissed the idea that Jesus walked on ice.
    "I'm just cold to the theory," said Bock, author of "Breaking the Da Vinci Code," which defends traditional Christian beliefs challenged in Dan Brown's "Da Vinci Code."
    "I tend to treat it as a real miracle," Bock said. "Almost all the nature miracles are challenged in one degree or another."
    Other reaction to the theory has not been so restrained.
    "I get hate e-mail on the average every three minutes," Nof said. One e-mail called him "the most stupid person on the planet" and closed by wishing that he "go to hell where you belong."
    Nof's research appears in the April issue of the Journal of Paleolimnology, a publication on the reconstruction of lake histories. Nof's co-authors are biostatistics professor Ian McKeague of Columbia University and atmospheric science professor Nathan Paldor of Hebrew University of Jerusalem.
    They came up with the theory after studying records of long-ago water temperatures in the Mediterranean Sea, based on core samples of shells and other animal remains taken from the bottom.
    The records indicated that two lengthy periods 2,500 to 1,500 years ago were chilly enough for ice patches to form during cold spells on the Sea of Galilee, said Nof, a native of Israel.
    The unfrozen water surrounding the ice would have come from salty springs along the lake's western shore, he said. Salty water freezes at lower temperatures than fresh water.
     
  2. Superfluous_Nut

    Superfluous_Nut pastor of muppets

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    darrell bock = math?
     
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    Scientist will try to find anything to disprove the Bible. I would like to hear their answer on how Peter walked on water yet began to sink when his faith was tested. I guess part of the ice he was on was melting.:rolleyes:
     
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    If you believe the Christian Bible, then God is the author of nature (through Jesus, according to the prologue of the Gospel of John), and it would make perfect sense for God to do miracles through commanding nature (perhaps causing such an ice sheet to form, for instance). Look at the plagues of Egypt. All of them can be explained by natural occurences. However, it is miraculous for them to happen back-to-back, with each of them being foretold, in turn, by Moses ( of course, that begs the question of whether Moses actually foretold them, or is someone adding that part to the story after the fact).
     
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    Nobody can fucking walk on water. It's physically impossible. I mean, I'm down with Jesus and all, but let's get real.
     
  6. THE 5TH CRUSADER

    THE 5TH CRUSADER THE TRUTH DETECTOR

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    Like they were their...they cant find a cure for the common cold yet they wanna discredit the Bible...Ill take Gods word over any man
     
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    That is the whole point of a miracle, it is impossible, otherwise it would not be much of a miracle.

    Modern science can not tell me if it is going to rain tommorrow with much accuracy but they think they can tell if there was ice on that sea two thousand years ago?
     
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    Mortimer The Brewster

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    A heart transplant would have been a miracle 500 years ago.
     
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    Even just 100 years ago. Everything we learn about the way nature works gives us new perspectives on things.

    FWIW, I'd be damned impressed if I saw some guy walking on a piece of ice the midst of a stormy sea, too.
     
  10. hasbeen99

    hasbeen99 Fighting the stereotype

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    Especially if all they had to work with was daggers and leeches... :imagestor
     

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