Rose finally cops to betting on baseball

Because you put words in my mouth.

 

Damn, must be like Rose controlling those baseball games!

 

I agree they are shitheads, but where I disagree with you is that these folks have damaged themselves - not the game. Their actions just don't affect the sport as much as what Rose could do gambling because their actions are public knowledge known to the public before the game starts.

 

Is betting on a game and throwing the game because of that bet the only way to damage the game or sport?

 

How often do you see people bet on Professional wrestling?

It is the only way that I know of to damage the integrity of the outcome of the game, contest, match, etc. itself. Certainly other things can certainly endanger the health of a franchise, league, etc.

 

A lot of them that acutally think Pro Wrestling is real probably bet beer on it all the time.

Maybe this all needs to be worded different. Ok, what Rose did could affect the game during the game itself, as he would be making the decision right then while the game is happening. All of the other things affect the game before it's ever played. Now that part I could see as a difference.

 

Note to self, Patti lacks reading comprehention.



I never said I didn't think it was bad. Put me down for those that think gambling far exceeds drug use.

Corked bat, eh, in that it really doesn't give the batter an advantage. I can't believe a batter would use it nowdays, particaurly how often bats are shattered. In a way, I kinda of believe Sammy for that reason. He shatters one a week. And a corked bat is more likely to shatter.

Steriods, yeah, that does, more than the league is willing to admit.

But its not as bad for the game as gambling can be.

 

ESPN.com: Baseball

Friday, January 16, 2004
Aaron also angry with Rose for timing of book

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ATLANTA -- Hank Aaron is adamant: Pete Rose has no place in the Hall of Fame, or anywhere in baseball.

The all-time home run leader harshly criticized the career hit king for an insincere confession, saying Rose should not be reinstated after admitting he bet on the game.

"During these past few days, I've looked at Pete on television, and he hasn't given any signs of an honest confession," Aaron told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution in an interview published in Friday editions.

"Plus, I've seen absolutely no truth whatsoever in what he's saying," he said.

Aaron, a vice president with the Atlanta Braves, said Rose should be treated like anyone else who gambles on games.

"I just think it's hogwash to say that he should be put back into the game just because the public wants it," Aaron said. "A rule is a rule, and the rule is on every clubhouse door that you can't bet on baseball. It doesn't say that you're excluded if you have 4,000 hits or 700 home runs."

Rose admitted betting on baseball while managing the Cincinnati Reds in the 1980s. He accepted a lifetime ban from the game, which bars him from consideration for the Hall of Fame.

That's the way it should be, according to Aaron.

"What are you going to do about Shoeless Joe Jackson?" he asked, referring to the player who was banned after he and seven teammates were accused of throwing the 1919 World Series. "Ted Williams said many days to me that (Jackson) didn't have anything to do with the scandal. If you let Pete in, you have to deal with that."

Aaron is also skeptical of Rose's claims, considering he is still a recreational gambler who doesn't see the need for professional help.

"It's just like an alcoholic saying that he doesn't drink whiskey anymore, but he still drinks beer," Aaron said. "Pete says that even though he isn't a gambler anymore, he still bets on the horses. That's bad."

In addition, Aaron is perturbed that Rose's book came out just before Paul Molitor and Dennis Eckersley were voted into the Hall of Fame.

"The timing of when he said all of this was very bad," Aaron said. "I'm still quite angry with it."

During Aaron's frequent travels from his Atlanta home to Milwaukee for business purposes, he chats often with commissioner Bug Selig. Aaron doesn't expect Rose to be reinstated anytime soon.

"I know how Bud thinks, so I'm guessing it'll be later," Aaron said.

That said, he never has never discussed the Rose matter with Selig. Aaron would like the commissioner to meet with small groups of Hall of Famers to get their feelings on Rose before making any decision on reinstatement.

"I don't want people to think that, if I go to Bud, he'll gravitate to my opinion," Aaron said.

Aaron is the second Hall of Famer this week to come out against Rose's reinstatement. In an open letter Wednesday, Ferguson Jenkins said, "Knowing what I know now, I will never support your reinstatement to the game or your bid for the Hall."

Jenkins had previously supported Rose's bid for Cooperstown.

"It's so apparent now with the gambling issue, he's kind of lost my vote," Jenkins said.

 

What a dumb mofo....

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ESPN.com: Baseball

Friday, January 23, 2004
Rose could attract crowd of 300

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MASHANTUCKET, Conn. -- A few weeks after admitting he bet on baseball, Pete Rose is going to an eastern Connecticut casino to sign his new book and dine with high-rollers.

The career hits leader, who agreed in 1989 to a lifetime ban from baseball following an investigation of his gambling, is to appear at Foxwoods Resort Casino on Saturday for an invitation-only signing of his book, "My Prison Without Bars," the Day of New London and the Norwich Bulletin reported.

Foxwoods spokesman Bruce MacDonald said Rose has made several paid appearances at Foxwoods and that as many as 300 gamblers have been invited to attend.

"We're getting a strong response," MacDonald said. "Our players are interested in what Pete has to say. I think he'll get a good reception."

When asked about Rose's presence at the casino -- given his gambling history -- MacDonald said he didn't think about it.

"We've had a history with him and thought this was an interesting thing to do," he said.

Rose admitted in his book, which was released earlier this month, that he bet on baseball games involving the Cincinnati Reds while managing the team in the late 1980s. He applied for reinstatement in 1997, but commissioner Bud Selig hasn't ruled.

In an interview with The Associated Press earlier this month, Rose said he hadn't been to a casino since the October fight between Evander Holyfield and James Toney. Rose said he went to the fight at Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas because he is a friend of Toney's.

"That was the only time that I've been to a casino that I wasn't getting paid," Rose said. "I'm not going to fly from New York to Las Vegas or Atlantic City as enjoyment. When I go to Atlantic City, when I go to Las Vegas, it's for corporate appearances."