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Discussion in 'Religion & Spirituality Forum' started by Miss tery, Jan 10, 2004.

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  1. hasbeen99

    hasbeen99 Fighting the stereotype

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    That's the risk we take. I cannot unequivocally determine that the Bible is right and the Talmud, the Qur'an, and the golden plates of Joseph Smith are wrong. But I've seen enough of a difference in historical and experiential integrity to convince me that the Bible is true. If Jesus isn't who the Bible says He is, I'm screwed.
     
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    Yup, get over it.
     
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    hasbeen99 Fighting the stereotype

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    True. But a mortal life lived to the ultimate degree of self satisfaction followed by an eternity of punishment is tragic. It's a risk either way.
     
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    anywhere I lay my head I'm gonna call my home
    I've nothing to get over. It's not my grudge, or my contradiction, nor any level of hollow suggestion of intelligence and insult.
    And the worst? I actually don't disrespect your religious beliefs.
     
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    HB, I disagree strongly on this point.

    Worst case scenario, you're beliefs in God in Jesus are wrong. There is no afterlife. There is no "salvation." What you've believed for so long is simply a fairy tale.

    You show warmth, humanity and integrity on this board and I find it hard to believe that your board persona is very far removed from your "real life" existence. I imagine that you live a life that balances the "giving" with the "taking" far better than most. Your faith has given you a way to improve yourself and the world you live in. So guess what? Even if you are wrong, you are ahead of the vast majority in living a meaningful life.

    In many respects, I agree with MT. I don't believe as the majority on this board believes. By membership, I'm a Unitarian Universalist. By belief, I'm a dreaded "secular humanist" but I do see the value of religion. While it is, far to often a wedge that divides us from our fellows, it is, for many, a path to becoming a better person. For that number, however large or small it may be, religion is a positive force in their world and ours.
     
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    Good post.
     
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    My wife asks this all the time. :D

    God was not created. He has always been.
     
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    WOW!
     
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    Miss tery, the proceeding rant is not directed at you, but at the principle you cited above.

    Who came up with that load of bullshit?

    Since when do 'social repercussions' go out the window when two (or more) people are talking? Is the internet supposed to be some kind of mythical buffer that keeps people from getting their feelings hurt? Does the same principle apply to telephones? If the reason is that we can't see each other eye-to-eye, the same principle should apply, right? But it doesn't. Why? Because there's a real person on the other end of the line. The internet is no different. A rose by any other name would still smell as sweet, so the anonymous username argument holds zero credibility with me. It's still real people on the other end of the T5 cable or telephone line, on the other keyboard, looking on the other monitor.

    Here's a reality check, folks -- there is no social Never Never Land where our actions don't affect other people.
     
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