Peete to start vs. Detroit

i don't think even the most optimistic of us is predicting 8-0 at the midpoint. but i think there's a good chance for us to be better than the 3-4 wins for the season you see. that's some pretty pessimistic stuff even for a "realist". most other "realists" are thinking 6 wins. how do you cheer for a team when you're so gosh darn negative? you're a Panther fan right? so why not get excited about the positives, even if they are not going to be enough to get us to the playoffs? did you feel cheated at Christmas when you were a little boy? did your mama show ya a titty only to stick a plastic nipple in ya mouth and you can't get over it?

 

I hate the word realist. I hated it when I was being optimistic about this team and I hate it now that I'm on the other side. Realist propogates the idea that one side is hopelessly off and the realist is right. That's not true at all.

Witherspoon on FNZ today started to talk about playoffs today.

 

I'm still trying to figure out why the Ravens will be 0-2. They're playing the Bucs.

 

>> . . . I doubt Weinke would have been able to hit the Walls TD, so I'll give you that. . . . Weinke's problem has never been against zone. . . . My point, which you apparently missed, was that while Weinke may have performed similarly against the same coverage that Peete saw, my guess is that Weinke would not have seen as much zone, since the book our there on him.

No, I didn't miss your point. It's an interesting point of view but I don't agree. I'm not convinced of my point of view either. I hope that I am dead wrong but I think there's more wrong with Weinke than just a lack of experience against blitzes and not knowing the playbook. And that was the point I was trying to make. I have not seen him bring a competitive fire to the game and it seemed to me that Moose was confirming that Weinke had not been bringing it to the huddle (of course, ya have to take anything Moose says with a grain of salt). I also think his inability to throw well to his left is a huge handicap. I don't understand it but if it was just mechanics ya would think they would have fixed it by now. I don't have a tape of the Clev game to go back and ensure what I am saying but I am pretty sure that he was not facing a blitz or heavy pressure on either his throws when he missed Byrd or lobbed the INT. I think I agree with Mags that Weinke could have made the TD throw to Walls but you could be right too. I thought he had a good arm last year and throws pretty well over the middle and to the right. But even some of those deep passes to the left seemed like they get heaved by him without him having a clue where the defense and receiver is or isn't. Also, some of his interceptions continue to seem to be a result of him going brain-dead. I excused it to a degree last year when he was a rookie but he continued with some of those type of plays this year. I don't understand it. It also seems to me that he concedes too easily. By that I mean that he often takes the little short pass when he starts feeling pressure and doesn't look to make the play that would keep his offense alive. He just does not seem to have that competitive edge to his game. He seems to have the physical tools and poise but something is missing. Again, I hope I'm dead wrong but am losing hope quickly.

>> BTW, really good Ravens run D?

not sure what ya saying. maybe in reference to my saying that the Ravens have a really good run defense. if they don't, then my bad. was making an assumption that they still had a strong front seven. i really don't know that so shouldn't have said it. but it did sound good to support my point that we're improving, didn't it? dadgum you experts poking holes in all my arguments.

 

just another stupid rookie. he'll learn.

 

well, Boulware really works best going upfield and in theory the 3-4 would continue to shield Lewis and allow him to roam. I don't think it has been doing great as a shield, though, and they were somewhat hit or miss as to running on them.

I wouldn't write them off totally but they're not league leaders like before.

 

They don't have that competent NT. Losing 3 starters up front hurts.

I was impressed by the Peete throw. It was over a defender, dropped over Walls left shoulder. Tony Banks had all the arm in the world, and never could make that throw.

 

Bump this for ALL the doubters... still have the same doubts you had back then???

 

I'm curious to your point on this Brain...if your reason to bump this was to run some "I told you so" mess, I'd prefer you not. Peete has played well and Weinke hasn't seen any field time. Comparison: Apples to a sealed container you can't see into. We're all happy for the success and it should begin and end there.

The end result of much of the dismay over the decision was the inherent need to throw away yet another quarterback. That feeling is pretty much still there.

 

It is good to reflect though. I was never more depressed about the team, or Fox when the call was made to go with Peete. I damn sure wasn't impressed with Lamar Smith either.

As far as an "I told you so message" well, I think it's more of a "Fox DOES know more about football than we do" message. Yeah, winning changes everything, and if we end up 3-3, it all could change again too.

Point is, we're 3-0 due to the fact Lamar Smith and Rodney Peete are Panthers, and those were the 2 positions we've had the most controversy/problems with over the years.