Panthers: Minter hopes to stay

I defend his solid play. Thats all I do. The same thing you do with the players you like, when you see somebody slam Grant or Moose, you defend that player. It only got into a hissy when you took a shot at me and I took one right back at you.

Upgrade. Reasons why? More INT, ok so they came right to him, why? because he was where he was suppose to be. Instincts. Which came after playing time. More PD. Cant be a Doug Evans, he is making plays on the ball. Branch sucks at run protection, Minter can teach him a few things. One of Grants weaknesses was that he avoided tackles. Which was a complete false. He took bad angles and was out of position, but he improved greatly just like Branch can. Branch has the physical tools and instincts, just needs to learn a few things. Grant also played beside cornerbacks with alot more experience than Gamble and Manning Jr. Ex. Washington, Bolden, Thomas.

Watch the tape of Arizona, and Tampa Bay. Branch broke up several passes on clayton and Galloway. Neither team could pass on us at all and it was because Branch broke on the ball like it was white on rice. Who had a big game on us? Pittman. The stats do not lie, after the philadelphia game he got a lot better, he defended passes and our pass defense got much better.

See above. Was Gamble and Manning Jr. here with Grant? Grant has more experienced talent around him.

It always stayed inside the arugment though, until you took a shot at me. Until then it remained within that argument.

But when you defend a player, you do it the same way. No matter who brought it up. If you see a statement you disagree with you post your opinion.

Seeking the truth and proving somebody wrong is not the same as being emotionally involved. Nor is exchanging insults with a person when the other person is the first to do that.

Good enough?

 

Nah. Not really. Branch isn't an upgrade over anybody but injured players we already had. You're way overestimating how good he is - and his lucked-into INTs are just a way of you not having to argue that he's still young and will get better. He doesn't break on balls, he doesn't make plays, he settles under a duck pass or two and you call him a playmaker.
He's not a solid run defender, that's proven. He's not a solid pass defender just because he got two INTs in a game, and he needs replaced.

 

Did he luck into the PD too? They saw the tape of the first few games and thought they could take advantage of a first year starter, but Branch made the other teams pay for that mistake.

What? Did you not read what scouts have to say about him?

"Has a quick short-area burst and the acceleration to close on the ball. Has good size, speed, quickness and body control. Tough, aggressive tackler who does not hesitate to come up and support against the run"

"Raw in man coverage, as he will bite on fakes, double moves and play action, Does not play off blocks well, getting engulfed as he does not always use his hands to keep blockers out of his body. "

If your not going to take my word, take the word of the respected scout. It goes against your whole arugment. Everything you say he sucks at he was very good at in college and the pros. All he has to do is not bite on play fakes and become better in run protection.

He is a solid pass defender because he has speed, acceleration, leaping ability, and great body control.

 

You're relying on draft coverage to make your point? I mean, it says he's a tough and agressive tackler, and I'm still waiting to see that one, too.

Thanks for trying to sell a draft report as something that happened "in the pros", too.

And you really, honestly think that Branch "made teams pay" for anything?

so do gymnasts. You're a solid pass defender when you do it on the field, not on one scout's rap sheet.

 

He is a tough, agressive tackler. He takes bad angles and misses people. Not only that, he had a handful of mean hits on WR to cause drop passes this year and broke up several passes for near INT. He did that in the pros. I dont think teams like the Rams, Tampa Bay, and Arizona like him very much. Do you?

 

I can remember one good hit. A really decent smack. I remember many of the plays where he got his PD, and they weren't spectacular nor did he have a chance at the INT, other than the one he dropped while he was wearing the mitt.

And more than once we've already described plays where CB had a RB head-up, and still screwed up. Deuce, LT, Duckett. Is straight-up the wrong angle?

Well, no. I mean they had needs at safety and passed him up, so I suppose they don't like him that much. Were those awe-inspiring days for the NFL in general, that they got to share the field with Colin Branch? Or was that one of those top ten plays of the year that I missed while I was in the can?

I know you like the guy. You don't have to prove that to me.

 

He never had Deuce straight up. He came from an angle everytime usually coming from the left side and just missed him. LT and Duckett I cant remember if Branch had them straight up or not. He needs to improve tackling.

Branch was closing in on the ball though on the PD. Wasnt he? Not only that but after that 2 INT game they almost stopped throwing to his side all together and he was still in position to make plays.

 

Culpepper's 3 int's in that game to Grant were fucking gimmies.

They were punts. Go look at the tape.

Grant was a shitty tackler. We can do better than Branch, but Branch is no worse or better than Grant, all things considered.

 

i'm not a great fan but at least CB hasn't yet got his ass benched in favor of a D. Richarson (?) or been shipped outa town

 

I never went ape-shit over Manning, Mags.

I have been rather hard on him at times.

Manning's 3 picks.....1 was a spectacular read and play. 1 was an average level pick. The last one was a gift from Minter.

Grant's 3 Punt Returns came against Minnesota, one of those was on a hail mary at the end of the game, a play in which a player with a fucking brain would have knocked the ball down. Instead, he picked it off and floated the ball out there like a loaf of bread. It was almost knocked out of his hands by a Viking. Little things like that.

Manning's 3 picks came in the NFC Title Game, Mags. Not week 3 against a pass happy team with a receiver (Moss) who quit for the entire half. Flawed argument.