Panthers and Redskins Running Commentary

Late, with the draw call on 3rd down...i wasn't completely against it. They were bringing heat, and it could have worked. Either way, it cut it from a potential 4th and 10, to a 4th and 6. We should have converted the 4th and 6, but if you're name's not Smith, you apparently can't gain RAC yards.

 

In today's case we were fucked by the time it got to 3rd, IMO. Any fucking idiot can determine that getting 3 yards on 1st, in a four down situation, effectively puts us in a 1st and 7: 3 plays to get 7 yards. To not run a play that was a good bet to get postitive yardage on 1st down in that situation is just fucking up. Which was compounded by two draws in a row (and I'm not against the draw, or wasn't until Henning ruined me). And then we get to fourth down, I really can't argue that going underneath was the worst choice at that point, just that we should not have been there.

Aside from today specifically, sure we get some quick strikes and it's great when they happen, but I think we could still get those and move the chains. I don't understand why we don't focus on that more often.

 

No, he hasn't. Just like he hasn't been throwing high every game this season. I'll say when he has, and he was this week. I'm just not going to scapegoat anybody, any one entity, for gratification or any other reason.

 

Sorry to get in this conversation late.

Execution and playcalling are two separate things. I don't know that I agree with the "these are the same calls that worked last week" type thing, since you have to attack any team in the places they're most weak and I don't know that we did that; I also don't believe we should be taking shots at their better corner or at Sean Taylor just to do it. You have to sustain drives, and we didn't. We took shots that I didn't like, that didn't work, and that kept us from sustaining drives.




And yes, B&B, we did run the ball a lot. I liked it, and it had some purpose. Never really got on track, but did help keep drives alive, and made a couple plays for us, so I'm happy with the run O. I can't be happy with splitting TOP evenly, we should've had more there. We set up too many punts, rather than trying, and I do have some problem with some things out there in playcalling. Not all, and that's not the only thing going on, no.

I guess it's the "if it works, it's genius, if it doesn't work, it's stupid" thing. I don't think he means that Carter's the scapegoat, just that if the play goes right, the outcome is different.

Certainly, if Carter catches that, we're probably not ragging Jake as a forum, either, and Henning just gets a rap on the knuckles from these guys for a few bad calls.




And BTW, Rogers doesn't break the play up. The ball bounces off Carter's dumb ass helmet, which means he didn't adjust to the fucking ball.

 

You suck at sarcasm.

I though we did have balance. Many of our passes, particularly the early ones, were short range, "extension-of-the-run" type of plays. I wish we attacked the middle of the field more often, particularly on the next-to-last drive, instead of killing those opportunities on draw plays. For the most part, though, I though the gameplan wasn't as bad as people are making it sound. We tried to establish a running game, and had some success, but we couldn't hit enough plays downfield to sustain offense. I think Washington, at least talent wise, is better than their ranking dictates, so we have to give them some credit as well.

Yeah, you really cracked the case there, Sherlock. I've actually disagreed with FSF on a number of issues, even if others are also disagreeing, so it really has nothing to do with that. I'm defending him now because you called him a moron, which is absurd.

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Gamble had a decent game, and Minter was alright, but they both fucked up on that play. But they didn't lose the game by themselves, and I never suggested that.

Thank you! Jesus, Mary and Joesph.

And yeah, the ball did go right through his hands and hit off of his helmet, before Rogers got his hand up. It's play that he really, really could have made, but it didn't happen. So was Drew Carter responsible for the loss? Of course not, so we can end that speculation right now.

Personally, I could do with a little less "cunning" from DH, or any other of our coaches. Those plays tend to backfire on us.

 

AND....."He also was somewhat responsible for those two late draw plays -- both were run-pass options with Delhomme calling the play at the line. Delhomme decided that Washington was playing its safeties deep enough on both plays that a run would work better than a pass." -from Fowlers column...but no less true because of it.

Jake is mediocre at best....I've been saying it since day one. I get NO gratification out of it...I wish he was the next Dan Marino....but he ain't.

 

And yeah, the ball did go right through his hands and hit off of his helmet, before Rogers got his hand up. It's play that he really, really could have made, but it didn't happen. So was Drew Carter responsible for the loss? Of course not, so we can end that speculation right now.

Watched it again. It wasnt as great a defensive play as I had recalled, but the arm was there afterward, but Ill admit he should have made that catch. Still, I think Rogers had very good coverage.


Personally, I could do with a little less "cunning" from DH, or any other of our coaches. Those plays tend to backfire on us

Heh....touche.

 

WTF is going on with 3rd and LONG ?

 

admitting that wanting to justify a statement you made long ago is probably the first step