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A few words from Tobacco Road
Tue Apr 15 2003 11:50 AM

I can hardly believe it! What a betrayal! How could he??!! and... what a mistake!!

ROY!! You are a collosal fool. You just abandoned a program with honor, credibility, and recruitting possibilities, for... Carolina? (a supposed opportunity: to rebuild a program that's in total disarray, confusion, with low morale, snarkiness - living in Maryland's shadow, who saw that? - and in the living ghost of a former coach, a program without loyalty to one of it's all-time favorite players)?

Well that's a, ummm... "bold" (ahem, cough, stupid) undertaking, on Tobacco Road - especially for someone who's just proven himself to be the man who - by easy extraplation - is a "give it all away guy" before the NCAA tournament's been fought?!!

Roy, are you sure everybody's still smoking out of the same pipe you remember?? It's been a few decades since you've played, after all.

Now, don't get me wrong: of course it hurts to lose the championship - in the world of sports, nothing hurts more. I don't expect to be telling you something about winning and losing you don't know, but I'm a lucky 6th man and all, and it's part of how i know it hurts like h*ll!! So... what were you thinking??!! AAAaaagggggghhhhhh!!!!!! YES - it's the definition of heart-breaking -- it's the closest shot at the biggest prize! Of course it hurts more to come in 2nd than to lose in the 1st round!!

Similarly, it hurts more to get the Silver than to be happy you made the Olympic games. Such is the nature of champions and championships. I know this.

Sure, I wouldn't have made the team (for what it's worth, I'm a 5'1" girl), but I like to think it meant something to be the "6th man". My K.U. parents felt they knew what they were doing when they raised me to appreciate the tradition and honor that accompanied the Jayhawks. Who were you to lie to us and let us down?!

Roy, you had the best leader on the court in the whole NCAA on your team. Collison sacrificed himself in the last few seconds because he had the leadership and will to do it. Wow. Now we find out how much more than "stepping-up to the plate" he really did - and why he had to do it! Somebody had to be the leader - clearly it wasn't the coach... Imagine what they could have done had you been leading the game, and had your heart been in it...

Was your head already too busy in Chapel Hill?

We admired him (Collison) for that, and we do still. He was, is, in fact, a hero. For the record, it's an accollade you won't get. You see, above and beyond what we (and he) knew -- it's a role he had to step into and fulfill; (as opposed to one you would subvert through disinterest).

You (jack*ss) snake!

For as long as I can remember, I was raised to have faith in the storied Jayhawk particpation in the NCAA basketball title. Back in the mist of unfixed memory I could already chant "Rock Chalk Jayhawk, Go K.U." Roy, it never occurred to me to consider that KU loyalty was an option. WHAT'S YOUR EXCUSE??!!

The price of your soul was right... on the table? (how much did you sell yourself for?). The math of loyalty is binary though, - pretty simple stuff. (On vs. off, enough vs. not, sixty pieces of silver vs. nothing?) Positive or negative, Right or wrong, it isn't that difficult, Roy. Now we know where you stand. Would that you had had the (balls) "grace" to position yourself with your team.

You fraud!

From hesitant fans, from wannabe players, from angry boosters - don't count on such loyalty again.

By the way, I've poured this disgust out of my heart as the Jayhawk I was born and raised to be: a loyal KU fan since I could sing the words "I'm a Jayhawk." In the way that you've shocked, disappointed and abandoned KU fans, you've done something I find close to (d*mn near) heretical, an unthikable disservice to the virtue of loyalty that Kansans are known to hold in very high regard. You've tainted a record of success with treachery.

Betsy Lynn Clyde
Duke '91

P.S. I want you to take note of my alumni institution, Roy. Why? Because I want you to know that I love Kansas in way you could never understand. So, I think you will understand full well the measure of my (digust) "respect" when I say I'd rather to lose to Kansas, than beat Carolina.

At Duke, beating Carolina three times in a season is called a Triple Crown. And I'll be watching my other favorite team win one of those this year. "Welcome" to Tobacco Road.

 

wah wah boo hoo hoo.

Roy coached his ass off in that game. It was her heroes that bricked over 15 foul shots that made it hard to win.

Roy didn't owe her ( or her parent's) anything. Kansas was his employer. He moved home to take another job.

 

I think recruits will think twice when Roy speaks of loyalty and family. Maybe some of them will call Wayne Simien and ask how whe feels about it. Puts an element of doubt in everything Roy has built his recruiting around.

 

You know you don't believe that shit. There was only one job that could have pried Roy away from KU, and he has that job now. 1-1 = 0. That dog don't hunt.

 

Let the Jayhawk fans explain to the Illini fans why its okay for them to take Bill Self away when it happens... there's no difference.

 

There is a difference. If Self has built his recruiting around loyalty and stability you don't hear about it.

 

Then why did he turn it down 3 years ago? What changed other than Roy saw a chance to possibly advance his career and make a little extra bread.

 

what horseshit.

why Simien? because he says he gave his right arm for Roy to stay? We are supposed to feel more sorry for him? That was as stupid as bohl's crushed like a dove comment.

I think all the people at West Point should stalk coach Kqfaiufdaid for the rest of his life. He was such a disloyal jerk to abandon them - at his alma mater no less...

 

Nobody blames a coach for leaving for a better position. Kind of like with a coordinator in NFL moving to a head coaching job. Williams made a lateral move. He proved 3 years ago UNC wasn't his "dream job". Sorry looks like Roy was padding his pockets with this move.

 

every f'n coach in the NATION says that