Official - Alex Stepheson Transferring

His game is very similar to DD, I don't think I ever said he has had the success of Davis. They are almost identical in their style of game. Davis was a starter and was the number 1 or 2 option his last two years, Alex is a sub and probably the 4th or 5th option when in the game because UNC had a ton more options than Clemson did. If you notice Davis offense numbers went down a lot once he was in the NBA.

 

It's not ballsy at all, and if he is truly transferring for family/medical reasons I would be extremely disappointed if the NCAA didn't release him from his commitment. UNC has already done so.

 

They draft high school kids based on potential, because they haven't played enough to show their warts. See guys like Chris Duhon who stuck around only to see their draft stock fall into the second round.

And Stepheson has hung around long enough to show he doesn't have anything other than an NBA body.

Really, go back to the football forum.

 

I really hope they do too, I just don't expect it.

 

Ok, my fault, you really are that stupid. Not only did I provide a link from one of the major sports sites proving that NBA scouts are "drooling" over Stepheson, while you produced absolutely nothing to support your own assertion by the way, but the history of the NBA Draft is littered with physically gifted prospects who are expected to be better pros than collegiate athletes. Was Sean Williams a star at Boston College? No. Hilton Armstrong in '06? Cedric Simmons? Only a complete idiot would fail to understand that the NBA values potential over college production, which I guess is where you come in. Now I'm not saying that Stepheson will be a star in the NBA, but it's obvious to anyone who isn't a single-celled moron why NBA teams would be excited about his potential.

It's amusing to see you keep saying things like this. Obviously you desperately want to see yourself as one of the authorities in the basketball forum, but ask around; no one sees you that way. From the repeated times you've had your ass kicked in basketball arguments by me when I admittedly don't even follow basketball that closely, I would think you'd have learned to keep your mouth shut and your head down. Do you honestly think that anyone views you as an authority on basketball? Has anyone ever asked specifically for your opinion about a basketball issue? Stop pretending that you aren't one of the many loud-mouthed idiots on this board who wishes they were more insightful and respected than they really are.

You are not an expert on basketball. You are not even well educated about basketball. At best you are marginally less clueless about basketball than you are about most other subjects, which still amounts to the same level of knowledge as the test tube offspring of Anna Nicole Smith's necrotic uterus and one of wossa's late night tissue romances. You cling to this forum because you desperately need validation in your life and want to believe that you aren't some complete loser with nothing to add on any subject, but that's who you are. Embrace it.

 

So does A Stepheson really take it in the ass?

 

For the record, all of those guys were productive college players. Not all conference guys, but they did produce. Sean Williams 12/7 and 5 blocks a game; Cedric Simmons had 12/6 and left after his sophomore year. Hilton Armstrong at least had 10/6/3 and hot 60%. Of those 3, Armstrong was the only lottery pick.

Stepheson is tearing things up with 4.3/4.5/.9

I completely agree that NBA teams draft people on potential. And you can't teach height or athleticism, which are both things that Stepheson has good amounts of. And you're probably right, some team will likely take a flyer on him in the bottom of the 1st round.

But you're still a complete idiot for saying that UNC would miss him more than they will miss Ellington.

And no, I don't care if anyone thinks I'm a basketball authority. I'm not. I'll be the first to admit that.

 

Not that productive. Williams' block total was the only number you posted that was in any way impressive for someone getting starter's minutes.

Wrong. Simmons was as well, and Williams wasn't too far away either.

Because he was a backup on the deepest team in the nation. Had he been at Clemson, he'd be starting and probably averaging close to a double-double.

Higher than that. All three of those guys I mentioned went in the teens. Stepheson has enormous untapped potential without much in the way of uncorrectable flaws. His offensive game is obviously raw, but during the tournaments he showed flashes of the beast I expected him to be.

Maybe. Certainly the average joe would think that's crazy, but I tend to think at a higher level than that, so I don't just settle on the "obvious" conclusions. I just don't see Carolina having much trouble scoring even without Ellington, while the times when the Tar Heels have struggled in recent years have usually been a result of rebounding and interior defense. The incoming freshman won't make up for that, at least not next season.

If you say so, but you sure try to mark your territory by pissing all over the basketball forum and telling me to stay out.

 

Does "much more productive than Stepheson" work better for you?

Lottery = picks 1 through 14. Simmons was #15. Not a lottery pick. Almost.

He only managed 4 points a game in 15 minutes in one of the high scoring offenses in college basketball. We shall see next year.

What flashes. Really. Against Mt St Marys? Arkansas? Please. Against real competition in the ACC Tournament and the 3rd and 4th rounds, he hit his season averages.

Actually, one of those incoming freshman, Ed Davis, is a 5 star recruit who is considered a strong rebounder and shot blocker.

I'm pretty sure he'll be able to make up for Stepheson's 4 rebounds and .9 blocks.

 

No. You claimed that they just draft high school guys on potential, but expect high levels of production from college players. That was bullshit and you knew it when you posted it. Anyone who isn't a total stiff will put up numbers similar to Williams (aside from blocks), Armstrong, and Simmons if they're starting. And obviously Stepheson would be right up at those numbers if he was a starter, he just had the misfortune of playing on the deepest team in the country.

My mistake. For some reason I thought that fifteen teams were in the lottery, but that wouldn't make sense anyway.

My mistake again for assuming that you watched Carolina play. Then again, even ESPN was showing highlights of Stepheson making huge blocks against Washington State. It really seems like you lack the ability to comprehend anything that isn't spelled out for you in a box score. You apparently don't know enough to be impressed by Stepheson playing strong post defense and forcing his man to kick the ball back outside. You apparently don't know enough to be impressed by him boxing out and then going up strong for a rebound. Carolina fans saw Stepheson improve during the course of the season and step up big at times in the NCAA tournament (something I discussed with other UNC fans at that time).

Nice job pretending that we're talking about him equaling what Stepheson did last year instead of what he was expected to do this coming season. Roy himself has said that he's never seen a freshman be a good defender, and it's unrealistic to expect an 18 year old kid to be as physical as Stepheson (something that Googled sites say is a weakness for Davis right now anyway). I don't follow recruiting at all, but while it sounds like Davis has the potential to develop into a quality college post player eventually, I've already seen Stepheson.