Now we can get rid of Gilbert!!!

And your point is that we suck?

Wow! I had no idea?

 

No one said that our defense won't get scored on. I just love having conversations with folks that insinuate that I said something that I didn't. Admittedly, Dallas was missing some folks, but for us to completely shut down NE in the first half the way we did was pretty awesome. I just don't see teams running over our front 7. Maybe the team as a whole sucks (which I don't agree with :shakehead) but Morgan, Peppers, Rucker, Jenkins and crew don't suck (and I'll fight ya to the death over that )

Since your recall is so good please tell me who the key offensive lineman and running backs that were missing in th NE game. I wasn't really paying that close attention and maybe need to change my assessment of our defense. I did happen to notice that Rucker and Buckner were not playing and that Fields went down with injury. Imagine that. We weren't playing with our full deck on defense and we shut down the World Champions. Not bad for a bunch of screwups.

 

And your point is that we suck? posted by Meat


Yep, thats the point.

 

I just love having conversations with folks that insinuate that I said something that I didn't.

I said "y'all". Don't recall insinuating "you" said anything. But, if you feel the need to make a statement like that then have at it.

I made a facetious statement and did not quote anyone.
Stay on the subject please.

 

Well, since we are staying on subject.....

As a team, yes, we suck on defense. But there are individuals who don't suck, particuarly on defense. Jenkins, Rucker, Peppers, Morgan, and Fields in particular. As a result, in preseason, a bit better of a pass rush and a much better run defense than we've had in a long time. But those things can't cover for our crappy corners.

We've been effective against the run so far. Certainly the Boys had several lineman out. The Skins didn't try to run. But the Pats had all their guys out there, and weren't able to get much going.

Gilbert, with his knee acting up, is our least effective lineman at this point. Fortunately that second DT doesn't have to be more than a space filler if the other 3 are doing well, and that's where we are at.

 

That may be true Piper but a space filler with that kinda contract is unacceptable. I still say Buckner can start - we can cut Gilbert and probably bring in someone for a lot less that can "eat space".

 

But there are individuals who don't suck

Thats my point. Football is a team effort. Incentives for personal performance is ridiculous.

Orange Crush
Fearsome Foursome
Iron Curtain---to name a few, they were a team effort

Having a bunch of sacks or interceptions can only be weighed by the whole picture.
What happened when the sack or interception was missed?
Who just ran 14 yards up the field while you were almost sacking the quarterback?

We need a whole team that plays as a team.

 

Putt, that was the "Steel Curtain"...

I think the Iron Curtain was the USSR...

 

That's the problem Gilbert costs too much to be a space filler

 

you are correct--just got carried away and was thinking about Badger college.