NFC contender QB coaches

Well, of the guys there, only Chicago and NY came in looking to start a young QB.

 

an archers form is always evolving. even my buddy larry wise, a 7 time world champion, has himself video'd and still shot from several angles monthly to keep the bad habits from taking over. collin you don't know shit from shinola about a lot, and quoting from your human development class if fucking lame. pussy.

 

Wrong, champ. I proved that it was the majority. Only about a third had primarily instructional duties according to their team bios.

 

Not really. You proved that most of them help the OC. Of course, all offensive coaches do that, but you wanted to write it off as that they were all just gophers like McCoy.

 

Regardless of whats been "proven" or not, the notion that a quarterbacks coach would not help is absurd.


And yeah, Mike McCoy is shit. Dont care what the hell Gantt says. He may work his ass off, but hes not doing a good job doing what he does.

As far as old quarterbacks not being able to learn? History has shown plenty of times that quarterback can ressurrect their careers and play lights out later.

 

magnus:
#1) Don't attempt to "correct" me and say that it was a "minority" just because you're desperate to validate your obsession with quarterbacks coaches. It was the majority, whether you like it or not.

#2) Neither one of us has done any sort of definitive study assessing every minute of every QB coach's day to see how much time he spends giving instruction versus how much he helps the OC. The only sources of information available are the team bios, and I did go through all those to produce a catalog of information. And according to those sources, only about a third of all QBs coaches actually have the primary responsibility of giving instruction to the team's quarterbacks. According to the bios, most have their primary responsibilities as working with the OCs, presumably because the OCs want to be the ones working directly with the quarterbacks.

The bios might be wrong or at least misleading for all any of us know, but they're the only resource we have, and they support my position, not yours.

Purr, we've actually discussed this before, and I know that once you set your mind to something it's nearly impossible to change it, but I've already explained to you that quarterbacks almost never actually change that late in their careers. Guys like Gannon and Beuerlein "resurrecting their careers" are really just getting a chance to show what they could have done all along (and many times guys like me were clammoring for those QBs to get a chance, like me wanting us to get Brad Johnson instead of giving Delhomme that massive extension). Then other guys may be better for a new system they joined, but almost never do you see a veteran quarterback actually changing the way he plays within the same system. So no, history hasn't shown it plenty of times. History has shown that a lot of veteran quarterbacks can be more successfull than people believed if just given a chance, but that's not the same thing at all.

 

It's not desperate or any of that usual needless crap. But if you want to show me where the vast majority is - this 85% or so of QB coaches that don't actually coach a quarterback - go ahead. But we didn't agree on this before either, and certainly, your rundown did nothing but list QBs coaches at the time.

By saying that by the time a person reaches full physical maturity, they're basically the person they're going to be. Which, IIRC, the age is 17, correct?
Something like that? (edit) Which would make every QB coming out of HS unable to change in any respect. (/edit)
Regardless, playing QB is not a habit. And "I've already explained to you" doesn't equal negation.

 

Another thread has been hijacked by TBR's resident terrorist Collin.

 

I had to come back to this. I'll not pay attention to the Weinke situation but Michael Gaines?
Really?


The guy who signs his name in block letters?

 

Favre could use some positional coaching right about now. Not having weapons does not excuse poor fundamentals. At least in the prime of his career, his fundamentals were good enough. Nowadays, everything is off the back foot.