New Tarbobby fan

quickly dig this up -

So let me get this right...they got Okafor to be a power forward, and want to continue to develop Brezec, meaning he's far from a throwaway player at worst and not a guy you'd put behind a franchise player. But they're going to push two seasoned guys around just to make room to start May?

But, you're right. They could change their philosophy on Okafor and push him to C for May to start. At best, then we've moved things around to push one young player out for another young player in, a franchise player out of position, and no talent at 2 and 3 still.

Yeah, there's a parallel there - you were a whiny bitch there, too. This all started because of that - and you're obviously hyper-sensitive to anyone saying anything negative about a Tar Heel. That does seem to be the point at which you lose any reasoning ability, yeah.

 

doesn't mean he's a starter either does it. That also doesn't make May a starter, but that doesn't mean in the end either could end up that way.

Like I've said before... Okafor learned to play basketabll as a Center. He played it when he first learned basketball. He played it in college and was named the Collegiate player of the year at Center. Its the ONLY position he's ever played until he went to the NBA. So please explain how he's pushed out of position?

So Gerald Wallace who plays the 3 is untalented? Which leaves the 2 spot. You ever thought just maybe they've considered that this is one of the best fucking years in free aganecy to pick up a young 2/3?? Look at who the hell is available? Its not 4/5s. Its Wings and there are a shit load of them. Hmmm... lets see there's a bit of common sense in that statement huh...

Nope you can badmouth the Heels all you want... my point is not only do you look like an arrogant asshole like normal, but this time you look like an arrogant asshole who doesn't know a damned thing about what he's talking about. Maybe you should go log in to ESPN.com for a retort to that.

MORON.

 

He's a better fit at PF. If he were a better fit for C, they'd fucking have him there. Can he play center? Sure. Is it in the team's best interest to have him there? Maybe not. Some said that Okafor didn't have the height/size to consistently take on centers, and that he had the athleticism to play PF. You get C skills in a PF, which works better at PF. I'm sure Bickerstaff's reasoning won't be good enough for you, since you're more worried about May and arguing at this point.

Yep, and we sure are the big spenders, aren't we? When other teams are keeping their Ray Allens and

We've done what? We're looking at who? Yeah, the franchise that threw up next to nothing for last season's gonna bust out and give a guard $5 mil a year. Tell you what, you bank on that. I'll be waiting for them to draft the guy next year. Joe Johnson's the best we can get? Yeah. Sure looks like one of the "best fucking years" to go get a superstar 2/3, when we're banking on one fair-quality guy who's probably going to stay with the Suns.

At any rate, you're talking about May as a good pick because he can board - a backup center who can spell Brezec makes more sense, and costs a whole lot less than a complete 2 or 3 would cost in FA. Good job there, Algernon.

He's damn sure not enough. He can't shoot outside, he can't board, and he's not good at D. A complete 3 would've made us a lot better team. And yeah, Okafor's much, much better than Wallace, so having a young guy in there to start would have made us good at the 3, where May doesn't actually make us terribly much greater than we were. That's what happens when you draft to strength rather than weakness...you don't improve.


I don't read ESPN vehemently. I don't hate the Tar Heels. It's always been fun to see you irrationally jump to conclusions so you can claim some pussy-assed "victory".
Of course, I also don't watch "multiple" clips and pretend I'm an expert on a player when it just happens to coincide with badmouthing a different option for us at 13. And I don't jump on every last person who says something about the Tar Heels, because I know that'd make me look like a pissy little girl who lashes out at things said that he doesn't like. You, however, seem very comfortable at it.

 

Um... maybe that's what they're doing genius.

where do you get I'm more worried about May? You've yet to back up ONE of your arguments against it. While I have. Once again... PLEASE tell me how the fuck you know what Bickerstaff's reasoning is? From what I remember, two days before the draft his reasoning was that they would take a little guy and a big guy, but the order would be determined by who was available.... please tell me how he hasn't followed his reasoning??

Well I'm sure you've noticed the moratorium on Free Agents was extended due to the fact the new CBA has been put in place, which means there has been an overall lack of movement on the free agent market... what you mean you overlooked that... its because you don't know jack shit about what you're talking about. But We aren't gonna go after Ray Allen or Redd. They're gonna look at the younger guys like Simmons. But once again you apparently are ignorant to that fact as well.

 

Yes, just that you're right and I'm an idiot, right? That's great logic there, Dollfarce.

Link?

This started because you got defensive of Capel, who doesn't matter. You got pissy about that from there, and you've done every last thing you could from there to defend against any possible criticism that May wasn't a perfect pick - criticizing people who didn't like it as ABC'ers. You accused me of it a couple times, too. Congrats on that, Thelt.

No point in even discussing the rest...you can't even get quote tags right and you're pretty much just saying "waaa waaaaa mags is saying things I don't like" anyway. I get it - you don't like criticism of former Heels. Don't drown yourself in fucking tears over it.

 

So far when it has come to this discussion... uh yeah.

You brought up the the possibily that's why I said MAYBE that's what they were doing.

Um no actually I made a joke over the fact that there would be ABCers that would whine about Capel's being brought in. Seems you may have taken it a little worse than most.

No I said that MOST people that didn't were ABCers feel free to go back and look. And I stand behind that. Furthermore it seems more that you got pissy when you got called on the carpet for your ignorance which you've YET to be able to prove wrong when debating this.

Still you can't offer more than this you haven't backed up ANY arguments you've tried to state. You've brought NOTHING to the table. My favorite part now is watching you try to wriggle out of this one, but you only keep making yourself look worse.

 

Seriously - you're claiming you're right based on

*the hope that they'll move Okafor out of the position he's been put in
*that you watched a couple clips of Green, and therefore know more about basketball
*pissiness.

LMFAO.

You've shown nothing to back up what you have either - you've got less, considering you've got absolutely nothing suggesting that May or Okafor would move to center.


Listen, I know you gotta be defensive over everything Tar Heel. I know that there's no way that you think that the May pick was anything but perfect, and therefore you have to cover your ass on every last point, no matter how implausible. After all, you're still convinced that I give a shit about Jason Capel and not that I was just laughing at your lame ass for being so defensive about the Heels. Ooh, yeah, I'm such a huge threat to the "crown." I'm such a huge ABC'er, right?

But the irrationality you've shown has been really entertaining. Good job losing your cookies there, tough guy.

 

Lets see I've offered the fact that Okafor was the former colliagte player of the year while playing his natural position of center. I've shown that I looked more into Gerald Green's abilities than you have. And yet you've offered... mkay. MORON.

I never said May would move to Center. I suggested Okafor might, so still you're grasping at straws.

There you go with that mind reading again... kudos to you Kreskin, but it seems that considering the fact that the May vs Villaneuva poll that's up seems to be skewed of something like 25 to 2, its apparently you defending your stance vehemently.

You really suck at this when you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. At least in football you have that to fall back on, but here you just look stupid.

 

Would it just make this argument easier for you if I went back to just calling you a moron?

 

Yep, and May was a tournament MVP as a center. So? The Bobcats wanted him at PF. If they wanted him at C, they'd have him there.

It's grasping at straws to suggest that a team will move a Franchise player to accomodate a backup. You've got nothing on the team actually doing that - which is what I've been asking for.

Werd. LMAO

Yep. Keep hanging your hat on absent-mindedly skimming over an mpeg or two as your "knowledge".