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NEW mortgage crash coming soon...

Discussion in 'Money & Finance Forum' started by Freakshow, Feb 19, 2008.

  1. kshead

    kshead What's the spread?

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    I thought the difference is taxable too. Hope I'm wrong there.
     
  2. Freakshow

    Freakshow Fuck you guys.

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    Believe he would be taxed on $5000 at the end of the year. Him owning that house should help offset that.
     
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    Isn't the amount that you can "gift" to someone now at 12K a year or is it still 10K? I've never had to worry about this situation. :N1ImwaitingHL:
     
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    Thelt,
    You may want to think about drawing up a rent-to-own contract with your sister showing some of thepresent (past, future) rent going towards a down payment. Set the sales price at the home value(what you believe is the appraised value, not tax value), have your sister show part of the difference as a gift. Gift allowance from one party to another would be 12K, but her spouse could also gift a like amount or she could also gift an amount to your spouse, if that applies. The only caveat I can see is: what are the tax consequences for your sister in counting the rental revenue as partial payment on the house.
    This would keep your loan to purchase price below 80%, so the bank would not have any issues, and would not require PMI. Other people on this board can provide more expertise than I. This strategy is only a suggestion. I am not an attorney, and do not play one on TV.

    N1r0l
     
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    The $5000 would be a taxable liability to his sister, not to him. Check with an accountant or Real Estate Attorney.
     
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    I am an accountant but I do not play a tax expert on TV or anywhere else. I do believe you are right though that the tax liability is with the giver.
     
  7. kshead

    kshead What's the spread?

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    Jes. We closed in Sept 2004. Refied in Jan 2006. When we were looking in 2003 every builder we dealt with pretty much just assumed we were looking for a piggyback loan as the starting point. Whatever got you in the house. I had to ask about a 30 year fixed and then have them run the numbers.

    The refi guy: You sure? 30 year fixed? In this market?
    Me: Yeah. I'm sure.
    Him: You want more money then?

    It was nuts.
     
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    Wow. No wonder it's caving in. No different than Nasdaq 5000.
     
  9. Freakshow

    Freakshow Fuck you guys.

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    Those rent to own things aren't cutting mustard with underwriters these days.

    They'l want the appraiser to find comporable rents from the area. If he's renting for $1000 per month and the average is $1000, they won't accept that he's paying any of the principle.

    Only way I've seen it done RECENTLY is a plain gift of equity. Thelt buys home for $100,000. Sister and her husband give $20,000 gift of equity. Thelt borrows $80,000.
     

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