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Losing your religion

Discussion in 'Religion & Spirituality Forum' started by Fred, Dec 11, 2004.

  1. hasbeen99

    hasbeen99 Fighting the stereotype

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    I no longer believe sexual orientation is a choice, as I once did. Nor do I believe it is purely biological.

    For the record, the Bible doesn't address sexual orientation, per se. It only addresses sexual action.
     
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    I think you are arguing symantics. The bible addresses various sins without addressing individuals who have a predisposition towards those sins.

    BTW, I believe someone who struggles with the sin of homosexuality (or homosexual activity if you prefer) can be a christian. However, if you do not admit that your sin is indeed a sin you can not obtain forgiveness for it.
     
  3. slydevl

    slydevl Asshole for the People!

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    Too lazy to look up the verses but doesn't the Bible say wanting to sin is just as bad as the act of sinning?
     
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    I agree with you here. I am a former Christian, & I tried to accept Bible teachings, including those teachings against homosexual behavior. I don't have a problem with Christians believing that's wrong--I'm free to disagree. What I DO have a problem with is Christians trying to impose their moral beliefs on those who disagree. I don't want to live in a theocracy. I want the government to butt out of individual lives as much as possible, including not trying to define FOR us what a marriage or a family is. Let each individual decide for himself/herself.
     
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    Even though it is not in the bible most people would agree that it is a sin to use drugs like cocaine or heroine. Most would also agree that it is a sin to be a junkie. It might not be a sin for a junkie to crave the drug. He might be getting off the drug and crave it. Taking drugs or being one who is a taker of drugs is a sin but the desire to take the drugs is not a sin if you do not give into them.

    I think homosexuality is much the same as this. The analogy between drug addiction and homosexuality is a pretty good one IMHO. Once you are hooked on a drug you no longer choose whether you desire it. In the same fashion many who have been homosexuals can not help but desire it.
     
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    Should the morality of the majority of the people not dictate what the laws are and what defines a family? We are talking about the law and how it is shaped not what individuals are forced to believe or how they act. I am not aware of any effort to prevent people from engaging in homosexuality.
     
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    slydevl Asshole for the People!

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    I think I can safely drive 80 in a 55 zone. Who the fuck is the government to tell me I cannot? There are societal reasons for keeping marraige between a man and a woman outside of moral ones. You are simply too blind to see that.
     
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    NO. Absolutely not. Laws should be for the protection of individual citizens in a society, not defining what is morally right or wrong.
     
  9. barry49s

    barry49s Ain’t good for nothing

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    Then why do you have the need to follow this religion? :thinking:
     
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    But are not almost all laws affected by morality? Why do we have laws against prostitution and incest?
     

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