Losing your religion

Based on what you said, you think abortion is murder. That being the case we still have a huge disagreement. I think murder is immoral to the extent that it should be illegal but apparently you do not.

 

articulatekitten, you would really like to hear what Adrian Rogers says about these things. I think you would really like it. I use to listen to him this past summer when i helped my grandpa. i wish i could remember it all but he had a series he did on marriages and what is expected of women and what is expected of men. There are a lot of men who don't live up to their responsibilities in this world. Men have a lot more responsibilities and will have more to answer to. Man, i wish i could remember it all since you brought this up.

 

Nope. I guess not.

We disagree on whether it should be illegal, yes. But you still miss my point in that I can find it immoral without needing the government to stop it. Not surprised on that though.

Shouldn't it be illegal to say the Lord's name in vain?

 

JB's right, AK. The women invovled in the Biblical accounts you're referring to shared some of the blame, sure, but only for their part. And that certainly doesn't absolve the men from theirs, according to the Bible. BOTH Adam and Eve were cursed. BOTH Samson and Delilah were punished. BOTH David and the woman he stole suffered. Anyone who says different isn't reading the whole story.

 

I think murder should be illegal and you do not. That is a pretty big difference.

I think the real difference is that I think abortion is murder and you just think it is wrong.

 

No. It's not. Read slowly - I believe it's wrong. I don't need it to be illegal because I'm never gonna have one. And unless you can prove that all abortion would be stopped by making it illegal you have a tough road there to prove a distinction. Again, I wish you luck there.

As I've said before, I think the real difference is that you lack the kind of real faith that would allow you to accept that God can find a way to keep Susie from doing what we both know is wrong. I don't. So you get (or want to get) the government to do it for you. That's pretty funny. Weak, but funny.

But thanks for telling me what I think again.

Now answer my question: Should using the Lord's name in vain be illegal?

 

No it should not be illegal. Now answer a question for me. Do you think abortion is murder and if you do how can you believe it should be legal.

I think it goes beyond just being wrong, it is murder. Do you put taking the Lord's name in vain on the same moral level as murder?

 

I've already answered that question 100 times for you in this and other threads. Just because you don't like or can't comprehend the answer shouldn't make me have to repeat it for you because the answer will be the same everytime. I don't think making abortion illegal is the solution to stopping them. Again, for the slow folks out there, I don't want abortion any more than you do.

As for what "level" murder belongs on? Sin is sin. Murder, stealing, whatever. God didn't say to take some commandments anymore serious than the others when it comes to acts of man. Not that I know of. So explain to me why you or I taking the Lord's name in vain shouldn't be illegal when you or I getting an abortion should be. How about adultery?

 

well, making murder illegal hasn't been the solution to stopping murders.

 

So do you think that we should allow other murders to be legal and leave it up to God to make people not do it? Should we do away with all laws and trust that it will all work out?

To me the baby, or fetus if you must, deserves some legal protection just like anyone else. It is not just about right and wrong it is about protecting the weak and innocent.