Losing your religion

I'll be in this group as well

 

It's gotten to the point that I say to myself "THIS is gonna be the bunch that's gonna be in heaven?????? In that case, I'll choose hell!"

 

:shakehead:

 

Funny, when he posted that I had the same feeling... very well said Fred. :applause:

 

I think you've very easily shown that you equate the political disagreements to something very upsetting. Earlier this year, in some regards, a side you politically disagree with, had ties to religion. I won't go into further judgements of you and your reaction to disagreement or any of the things the envelope the ideals around such things, but you're equating church to state and that's not so. Furthermore, you're stronger than this.

 

That is the most rediculous thing you've every said, Fred.

 

Oh no--- I can do much better!

Seriously, I want nothing to do with the 'Christians' of this world. Give me the athiests, agnostics, the hippies, the potheads, the hard, left liberals etc.... They are, as a general rule, honest and direct and most of them live and follow the Golden Rule, which is a rarity for 'Christians' I know.

 

Spud- Do you realize how many aspects of our being that our partner or mate is part of? .... financial planning, adoption/children, any major purchase, insurance.... it's endless when you think about it.

That word "marriage" entails more than you can even imagine. But to me, any sort of a sense of permanence is a goal-lined security blanket and I gravitate to secure things and secure people.

The thought of being with someone and knowing that they are mine; not only in my heart but in legal terms as well is a very warm feeling and that warm feeling is something I feel George W Bush (this society) is denying me the possiblility of having.

So, it may be "only marriage" to you. But it's the prospect of having a more secure future to me. It's kinda ironic that you're the one that can get married and I can't- huh? :huh:[/QUOTE]




No, its NOT ironic, I've been committed to my marriage for quite a few years so don't try to "down it" just because I'm asking you some questions. I do know what committment is. I didn't get married for a more secure future either.

But I also know gay couples who have all those things you mentioned. Including children. I know married couples who don't have those things because of the jobs they have etc.

 

I wasn't downing you at all; what I was trying to get you to realize is how marriage/a legal binding with someone changes every aspect of your life and of your future.

So to ask what right, other than marriage, do I feel I have been denied is like calling the Nile "a little river."

 

Those are basic rights? :huh: