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LCD vs. Plasma

Discussion in 'Technology Forum' started by WilliamJ, Jan 1, 2008.

  1. CFBall

    CFBall Senior Member

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    DJ Tet

    gotta nice pic of your tv to share? visual needed ......i too am in the market for one.

    :th_90edab00: Happy Hours Gentlemen!
     
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    Here's a pic I posted in the football forum when I got it. My camera isn't all that great but this pic shows my tv well enough I think. Obviously pics don't do it justice, it really pops in real life.

    My model isn't made anymore unfortunately, Pioneer discontinued it in favor of the new line of Kuros which are ridiculously expensive. I got mine through a web reseller and it's second hand actually.

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    edit: Note the sun in the room...certainly not a basement with curtains...
     
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    nice

    thanks.
    our debate is the size....probably 32 or 37.
     
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    My tv is 42 inches, and I've never heard someone wish they went smaller than what they got. I wish I had gone for 50 inches, actually.

    At that size I think you're looking at either lcd or crt?
     
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    lcd probably, 42 or larger is too much tv for us unless they come under a $1000 ...ball games, movies from time to time and the wife's favorites(not much) is our tv-time.
     
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    Honestly, if you're not a gamer then LCD is a fine technology. I came down on it pretty hard but for the price you can't find a better deal.

    Have you considered dlp rear projection? You can get a really nice set for under $1000, big too. Won't be a flat screen and you'll have to replace the bulb from time to time (about $200) but it has a lot of good things going for it assuming you can't see the rainbows.

    My gf has one that's 55 inches and the picture is very nice. It displays SD a lot better than my tv actually.

    I think the bulbs last about 4 years or so under regular use.
     
  7. Superfluous_Nut

    Superfluous_Nut pastor of muppets

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    what does liking me have to do with anything? you can't like me and disagree with me at the same time?

    sure, 768 is not 720, but 768 is perfectly adequate to display 720. and 60p fps is going to be way more demanding on your refresh rate than 30 fps. and you're dead wrong about all signals being converted to 1080i -- that would defeat the whole purpose of dtv which has like 4 or 5 different standard resultions (480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i... maybe some others). if they all scaled up to 1080i, that'd be tons of wasted bandwidth.

    okay. i don't recall commenting about compression artifacts.

    my point is that dj was talking about how good his tv looks with sports. most sports hd broadcasts are 720p (1280x720 at 60fps) which is exactly up his plasma's alley (1280x768 with a fast response time). so yeah, it IS content driven and sports content on abc, espn and fox sports is the perfect content for his set.

    but we're not really comparing coke and pepsi -- it's more like comparing gatorade and milkshakes. neither is objectively better, but i sure as shit wouldn't want a milkshake when playing basketball.
     
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    Superfluous_Nut pastor of muppets

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    i realize you aren't saying your res is better, i'm just pointing out that you don't need 1080 vertical lines to display 720 vertical lines of picture. your 1280x768 is more than the 720p signal and you tv's response time can keep up with the 60fps just fine.

    err... those are actually different artifacts. compression artifacts are in the signal. lcds are getting faster, but i don't think they're quite there in terms of response time. fast moving images can still leave ghosts. i suspect the relative difference of the pixel values probably plays into this as well (like going from black to white takes longer than going from black to dark gray).

    i'm not going to get into that.... i find i actually prefer lcds whenever i see them.

    yeah, the scaling engine would really have a lot to do with your eventual picture.
     
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    You can get a 42" plasma for $1000
    http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-HPT42...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1199498692&sr=8-1
    Final price is $1030, shipped and no tax...

    DLP and other rear-projection systems just suck in comparison, don't settle. 42", for me, is the dividing ground for LCD vs. Plasma - 42" and under is LCD, 42" and over is Plasma.
     
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    Nut, the signal you get from TW if you have it is 1080i. i don't know how to state it more plainly.

    Both images are scaled from 1080i@60fps. And even if they weren't they'd both be scaled from 720p. My Toshiba's scaler is one of the ones that tested out as able to properly scale source, unlike many other brand name TVs, including a great deal of plasmas.

    To hell with it. You have convinced me - everyone take back your 1080p TVs and get 768p Tvs. Lower resolution is better technology.

    It is absolutely retarded how far people will go to try to justify their purchase.

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