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Discussion in 'MLB - Baseball Forum' started by Piper, Feb 9, 2005.

  1. UNCdubya

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    You got me, I'm a huge Cardinals fan.
     
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    at my last job we used to call him every month because he would never pay his mortgage on time.
     
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    So far Bonds and Giambi have all but admitted using them. Bonds said he did unknowingly as a cover, but has admitted it. Seems Jose may be on to something.
     
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    Some of these guys weren't Cardinals.
     
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    Even though Jose admits he has no first hand knowledge or any kind of proof, he put a lot of names in the book. Clemons is in their. A lot of guys are.

    A lot of guys who have been clean are going to have their names dragged through the mud. If you had success in the 90s, even if you won't even take asprin, suspicouns surround everyone.

    That's why the players demanded that the Union put in a strong testing program this year. Its about time the rank and file see that the Union has held the intrests of the cheaters above their own.
     
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    Fuck Canseco. I bet alot of what he is saying is true but to throw team mates under the bus to make a dime or two is total bullshit. His continued justification of steroids is hilarious. Call me mean but I won't shed a fucking tear when he kicks off due to some steroid related illness.

    On a side note I did get his autograph when he was in Charlotte at the fair grounds. He wasn't that big. I was surprised
     
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    bump.

    Who has more credibility now. I say Jose's stock has went up.
     
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    I agree. Who would have thought that Jose was the one who would come out of this as the most credible one?
     
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    No way to go but up, once you laid the hammer to Madonna.
     
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    Come on VP? Are you serious? He has the classic signs of HGH in his physical appearance. He refused to answer questions during the steroid hearings because he didn't want to perjure himself. If he hadn't taken them, then he would have just said "no" like Palmero, however he would have opened himself to perjury charges had he been lying...like Palmero. It was basically a desicion to either lie and risk possible perjury charges or refuse to answer and look guilty but not indict yourself.

    Also, what people forget is the whole Andro thing. Everyone went crazy when he admitted to taking Andro which was just an OTC supplement that, like most supplements, didn't do shit and at the time he was taking it it had already been determined in the weight lifting community and most studies to be worthless. It was on the NFL banned substance list but only because it was being used as an effective masking agent in steroid testing...specifically for increased testosterone levels. Why else would McGuire be taking such a worthless supplement?

    If nothing else, look at the before and after pictures. There is no defense for those.
     

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