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Jazz Chords and Scales

Discussion in 'Music Forum' started by keyplyr, Jul 14, 2003.

  1. keyplyr

    keyplyr Junior Member

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    I see some interest here concerning Jazz chords and scales, so I thought these charts would be helpful. They are spelled in intervals so they can be applied to any key.


    Jazz Chords

    Jazz Scales
     
  2. LarryD

    LarryD autodidact polymath

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    cool! thanks.
     
  3. jazzbluescat

    jazzbluescat superstar...yo.

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    That site is confusing to me. The site owner mixes rarely used stuff with conventionally used stuff. And, he's incomplete/not thorough to boot; e.g. the bebop scale. He shows one bebop scale and doesn't state that that particular scale is to be played on a dominant (mixolydian) chord. There are different bebop scales for different chords: maj/min, dorian minor(and mixolydian).


    This site is organized much more realistically, provides some insight into whys and whats; making things more easily comprehended, IMHO:

    http://www.outsideshore.com/primer/primer/ms-primer-4.html
     
  4. keyplyr

    keyplyr Junior Member

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    Chill out - these are charts.
     
  5. jazzbluescat

    jazzbluescat superstar...yo.

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    Didn't mean too get excited; nor discredit your thread/site that you posted. [I posted the site over in the Hot Links forum a while back.] But, compare the two sites and see for yourself.

    One site, IMO, appears to have been compiled by a musicologist and/or someone not versed in jazz, and the other by a player. Now, I know just because you're a player doesn't make you a...fill in the blank. But, compare the info and organizations of the sites.
     
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    LOL - I am the author of www.apassion4jazz.net , numerous books on Jazz theory, a Jazz pianist/composer as well as having served as the Adjunct Professor of Jazz Studies for the University of California Los Angeles & San Diego.

    As for Mark's website (outsideshore) it is a terrific resource that I'm sure he's worked very hard on.

    I post charts and graphs as a free resource for those looking for reference material. For those wishing in-depth course material, they may purchase my books or register for Online Lessons. I am also available to answer questions concerning composition, Jazz theory, harmony and improvisation at www.allexperts.com .
     
  7. jazzbluescat

    jazzbluescat superstar...yo.

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    Well, I tip my hat to you, sir; and wish you all the luck in the world with your website and other musical endeavors.

    But, my musicologist/non player rationale stems mainly from your scale chart. [We both know there're countless number of scales.]

    Although I'm familiar with, or can relate to your scales, most are not common, per se, IMHO, and some of the nomenclature is "far out." Without getting too specific, I've found there're basically only 4 or 5 scales used "routinely" in jazz: major, modern minor, symmetric diminished, blues, wholetone[seems like I'm missing an important one], along with their respective modes. Arguably one could include harm. minor and the ole fashioned dim scale.

    Oh, another "gripe";) I have is the clarity, or the lack thereof, of the bebop scales. I can think of 4 off the top of my head: maj, min, dorian minor and mixolydian. [I suppose those can be broken down to two.]

    Man, I hate dissing you. But, I've studied at a well known school, also, and am currently studying{slash chords out of Levine's book}and have been around the block, too.:rolleyes: In addition, I'm shedding tunes, II/Vs, scales, chord patterns 5+ hours a day.

    peace [and pass the ammunition:D ]

    I'll check your expert site out. Maybe it'll clarify the passion site.

    ;)
     
  8. lex

    lex viking extraordinaire

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    cool thread, keyplayer! so do you play the keyboards? what's with the low post count?

    good lord, do something about that!
    ;)


    obtw, welcome to our humble music forum, musicman! keyplyr, you just go ahead and post and start threads. edjumacate us with fun stuff, whydontcha? :cool:
     

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