JamesOops Curry

No, in extreme cases where there is a great threat to public safety the judge can even deny bail. That you would even bring this up as a comparison is a good example of why I use the words “drug war hysteria.” The crime we are talking about is no where near as serious as even the crime Kobe Bryant (whom the NBA is allowing to play) is accused of, let alone a plot to murder public school students.

A better example of drug war hysteria is the following:

"The agents kicked down doors, ransacked the office of Dr. Daniel
Maynard, and handcuffed patients, including an elderly woman with a
stroller and an oxygen tank."

http://www.rsdhope.org/Showpage.asp?PAGE_ID=33&PGCT_ID=2648

Perhaps they should deny bail to that little old lady. Surely she would otherwise be out sticking up gas stations, her stroller in tow, to get her fix money.

 

Too bad you aren't smart enough to comprehend that Curry's rights as a student are seperate from his rights as an accused criminal.

 

there is nothing to debate - all the students are on long term suspensions - which means at least 11 days - he won't be playing basketball until they let him back in school - and I assume his suspension could be for even longer or the coach or principal can keep him off the team.


still just can't get over how stupid somebody can be when they have that much on the line

 

I'm smart enough to know that the NBA has the ability to sanction its players outside of the government judicial system, and they do it all the time. I think the NBA is respecting the doctrine of innocent until proven guilty, and I think that is the right thing to do.

 

the NBA has a collective bargaining agreement. High school kids don't.

 

The following is taken from the Burlington Times-News article:

“Merrill said each student arrested will face at least a long-term suspension. Some students may be eligible for alternative education programs on the condition that they and their parents participate in drug treatment and counseling.”

Drug treatment is the biggest scam ever pulled over on the American people. It is not treatment at all; it is religious indoctrination. The vast majority of people who end up in treatment are coerced into treatment, and the vast majority of treatment programs are based on the 12-step religious program. The whole government system is based on coercing people into a religious program. Three federal circuit courts have ruled this to be in violation of the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment, and there are more suits in litigation, yet many in the treatment industry are not even aware of these court rulings.

 

His high school career is done. Here is the Alamance-Burlington School System Student Code of Conduct policy, which I assume is similar for most school systems...

Rule 26. Narcotics, Alcoholic Beverages, Controlled Substances, Chemicals, and Drug Paraphernalia
No student shall possess, use, distribute, sell, possess with intent to distribute or sell, or conspire or attempt to distribute or sell, or be under the influence of any narcotic drug, hallucinogenic drug, amphetamine, barbiturate, marijuana, anabolic steroid, other controlled substance, any alcoholic beverage, malt beverage, fortified wine, other intoxicating liquor, drug paraphernalia, counterfeit substance, any unauthorized prescription drug, or any other chemicals or products with the intention of bringing about a state of exhilaration, euphoria, or of otherwise altering the student’s mood or behavior.

For the purpose of the Code of Student Conduct the following definitions apply:
1. Possess: Having the power or intent to control a prohibited substance and shall include, but is not necessarily limited to the possession of a prohibited substance in a student’s automobile, locker, book-bag, or desk, or on a student’s person.
2. Use: The consumption, injection, inhalation or absorption of a prohibited substance into a student’s body by any means.
3. Under the influence: The use of any prohibited substance at any time or place when the prohibited substance would influence a student’s mood, behavior, or learning to any degree.
4. Sell: The exchange of a prohibited substance for money, property, or any other benefit or item of value.
5. Distribute: To give, share, or pass a prohibited substance
6. Possess with intent to distribute/sell: Intent to distribute or sell may be determined from the amount of the prohibited substance found, the manner in which it was packaged, the presence of packaging materials such as scales, baggies or other containers, or from statement or actions of the student that demonstrate an intent to distribute or sell.
7. Counterfeit Substance: Any substance that is described or presented with the intention of deceiving another into believing that it is a substance prohibited under this policy.
8. Unauthorized Prescription Drug: Any drug or medication that has not been prescribed for the student.

Except as noted below, the first violation of this policy by a student in grades 6-12 shall result in the long-term suspension of the student from the school system for the remainder of the school year.
1. When a first infraction does not involve the distribution, sale, possession with intent to distribute or sell, or conspiracy or attempt to distribute or sell a substance prohibited by this policy, an alternative to long-term suspension shall be offered. This alternative shall be offered only one time to students during their school career unless an exception is made by the superintendent. The alternative shall consist of a 10-day suspension and shall also require participation in a corrective education and/or counseling program. The program shall be designed by the superintendent and agreed to in writing by the parent, guardian, student, and school principal. Parents, guardians, and students shall be provided information by school authorities concerning approved alternative programs. Failure to meet any requirements of the alternative program reactivates the long-term suspension.
2. Any student who is fourteen (14) years of age or older and who distributes, sells, possesses with intent to sell, or conspires to distribute or sell any schedule I or schedule II controlled substance as defined by the North Carolina Controlled Substances Act may be expelled.
3. The proper use of a drug authorized by valid medical prescription from a legally authorized health care provider shall not be considered a violation of this rule when the drug is taken by the person for whom the drug was prescribed.
4. The first violation of this policy by a student in grades K-12 that is in possession of a prohibited substance and a weapon or dangerous instrument shall result in at least a longterm suspension and may result in suspension for 365 days or expulsion where permitted by law.
Note: Schedule I substances include, among other types, opiates; hallucinogenics such as LSD.
Legal Reference: G. S. 115C-391; G.S. 90-89, -90

Rule 27. Violations of North Carolina Criminal Statutes
Students shall not violate any criminal statute or local ordinance or commit any act which could result in criminal prosecution or juvenile proceedings not previously covered elsewhere in these rules at any time while a student is at school in any school building and on any school premises, attending school-sponsored activities, on or about any school-owned or operated vehicle, off school property at any school-sponsored or school-approved activity or function or during any period of time when students are subject to the authority of schoolpersonnel and at any time when the student’s behavior has a direct and immediate effect on maintaining order and discipline and protecting safety and welfare of students and staff.

 

In addition, should some of those arrested be underclassmen and participate in athletics, their positions are shaky at best from the NCHSAA.

North Carolina High School Athletic Association Eligibility Regulation
Any student subject to the NCHSAA eight-semester rule who (1) is convicted of a crime classified as a felony under North Carolina or federal law or (2) is adjudicated delinquent for an offense that would be a felony if committed by an adult is not eligible to participate in the North Carolina High School Athletic Association sports program.

 

So if my kid takes my car to school and I have left a 6 pack or a fifth in it, he gets busted? FUCK THAT!

 

That might be a stretch vp, but schools around here are strongly zero tolerance. Under your thoughts, they could have a weapon in the automobile legally on campus.

Rule 23. Possession of a Firearm
Students shall not possess or conceal or transport any weapon or
instrument that could cause or that is intended to cause bodily injury or other harm to another or any firearm to include: gun, air gun, BB gun, pellet gun, firearm or any weapon capable of firing a projectile of any kind or any gun facsimile or incidental items relating to firearms use such as bullets,
magazine clips or other projectile items at any time while a student is at school in any school building, and on any school premises, off school property at any school-sponsored or school-approved activity or function or during any period of time when students are subject to the authority of school personnel and at any time when the student’s behavior has a direct and immediate effect on maintaining order and discipline and protecting the safety and welfare of students and staff.

Rule 24. Possession of a Dangerous Weapon or Other InstrumentStudents shall not possess or conceal or transport any weapon or other instrument that could cause or that is intended to cause bodily injury or other harm to another or misuse otherwise acceptable objects in a manner intended to cause harm to others at any time while a student is at school in any school building and on any school premises, attending school-sponsored activities, on or about any school-owned or operated vehicle, off school property at any school-sponsored or school-approved activity or function or during any period of time when students are subject to the authority of school personnel and at any time when the student’s behavior has a direct and immediate effect on maintaining order and discipline and protecting safety and welfare of students and staff.